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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Splitting out kernel<=>userspace ABI headers
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:46:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4328299C.9020904@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dfapgu$dln$1@terminus.zytor.com>

H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Followup to:  <20050902235833.GA28238@codepoet.org>
> By author:    Erik Andersen <andersen@codepoet.org>
> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
> 
>><uClibc maintainer hat on>
>>That would be wonderful.
>></off>
>>
>>It would be especially nice if everything targeting user space
>>were to use only all the nice standard ISO C99 types as defined
>>in include/stdint.h such as uint32_t and friends...
>>
> 
> 
> Absolutely not.  This would be a POSIX namespace violation; they
> *must* use double-underscore types.

Could you explain why you think it would be a violation to use POSIX 
types instead of defining our own? That's what the types are for, to 
avoid having everyone define some slightly conflicting types.

The kernel predates C99, sort of, and it would be a massive but valuable 
  task to figure out where a type is really, for instance, 32 bits 
rather than "size of default int" in length, etc, and use POSIX types 
where they are correct. Fewer things to maintain, and would make it 
clear when something is 32 bits by default and when it really must be 32 
bits.

-- 
    -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com)
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
  last possible moment - but no longer"  -me

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-14 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-02  3:00 [RFC] Splitting out kernel<=>userspace ABI headers Kyle Moffett
2005-09-02 13:41 ` Erik Andersen
2005-09-02 20:51   ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-02 23:58     ` Erik Andersen
2005-09-03  0:07       ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03  0:30         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-03  0:34           ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03  0:50             ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-03  4:28         ` Erik Andersen
2005-09-03  5:22           ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03  5:50             ` Erik Andersen
2005-09-03  5:53               ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03  6:41                 ` Erik Andersen
2005-09-03 15:01                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03 15:19                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03 16:55                     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-05 16:35                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-05 23:28                         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-06  1:29                           ` [RFC][MEGAPATCH] Change __ASSEMBLY__ to __ASSEMBLER__ (defined by GCC from 2.95 to current CVS) Kyle Moffett
2005-09-10  8:40                             ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-10  8:45                               ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-10 17:38                                 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-10 22:04                                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-11  0:33                                     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-11  0:48                                       ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-11  3:15                                         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-12  8:09                                           ` Paul Jackson
2005-09-12 15:19                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-12 15:47                                               ` Paul Jackson
2005-09-12 17:17                                                 ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-09-12 21:14                                                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-09-12 21:39                                                     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-12 17:18                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-12 17:51                                                 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-12 21:04                                                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-09-14 13:56                                                   ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-15 21:53                                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2005-09-03  5:55           ` [RFC] Splitting out kernel<=>userspace ABI headers Kyle Moffett
2005-09-03  5:57             ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-03  6:05               ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-03 15:36             ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-03 16:33               ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-03 16:51                 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-09-14 13:46         ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2005-09-14 17:01           ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-09-14 17:01             ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-14 18:14           ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-14 19:09             ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-09-14 19:20               ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-14 19:46               ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-02 21:42 ` Jeff Dike
2005-09-02 21:55   ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-02 22:44     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-02 23:24       ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-02 23:41         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-02 23:53           ` H. Peter Anvin

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