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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>
Cc: "\"Martin v. Löwis\"" <martin@v.loewis.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Patch] Support UTF-8 scripts
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 12:25:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <432B1C15.4060702@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0509162029470.5708@be1.lrz>

Bodo Eggert wrote:
> 
> It should, but as long as old programs are still around, we'll have both 
> and need a marker to distinguish them. Otherwise we'll be stuck with
> legacy scripts for a long time.
> 

You don't have markers (although they're defined, see ISO 2022) for your 
8-bit encodings, and *THEY'RE THE ONES THAT NEED TO BE DISTINGUISHED.* 
Flagging UTF-8, especially with the BOM (as opposed to the ISO 2022 
signature, <ESC>%G) is pointless in the context, since you still can't 
distinguish your arbitrary number of legacy encodings.

Oh, yes, and try to stick ISO 2022 signatures in scripts or whatnot, and 
you can see what current software does with a signature standard that 
dates back to the 1970's.

	-hpa

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-16 19:25 UTC|newest]

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2005-09-16 18:02           ` [Patch] Support UTF-8 scripts Bodo Eggert
2005-09-16 18:09             ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-16 18:57               ` Bodo Eggert
2005-09-16 19:08                 ` Martin Mares
2005-09-16 19:25                 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
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2005-09-17  6:28               ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-17 22:31                 ` D. Hazelton
2005-09-18  3:45                   ` Kyle Moffett
2005-09-19  0:14                     ` D. Hazelton
2005-09-18  6:58                   ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-19  0:31                     ` D. Hazelton
2005-09-17 17:16               ` Bodo Eggert
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2005-09-17 12:28                         ` Martin Mares
2005-09-17 12:53                           ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-17 13:05                             ` Martin Mares
2005-09-17 13:33                               ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-19  7:08                         ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-19  7:18                           ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-19  7:24                             ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-19  7:46                               ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-19  7:50                                 ` Pavel Machek
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2005-09-16 22:08                     ` H. Peter Anvin
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2005-09-17 22:28                         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-09-18  7:23                           ` "Martin v. Löwis"
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2005-09-18  0:53                           ` Bodo Eggert
2005-09-18 16:53                             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
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2005-09-18 19:23                               ` Bodo Eggert
2005-09-18 21:03                                 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-09-19 19:37                                   ` Bodo Eggert
2005-09-18 22:29                                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-19  6:03                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-19  4:54                               ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-19  8:26                                 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-09-19  9:00                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-09-19  9:41                                     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-09-19 21:40                                   ` "Martin v. Löwis"
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2005-09-15 18:24   ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-15 18:25     ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-15 18:39       ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-09-15 19:20         ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-09-16  8:13         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2005-08-13 12:07 "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-08-13 16:35 ` Stephen Pollei
2005-08-13 18:42   ` Lee Revell
2005-08-13 18:49     ` Hugo Mills
2005-08-13 18:53       ` Lee Revell
2005-08-14  0:57         ` Alan Cox
2005-08-14  1:19           ` Kyle Moffett
2005-08-14  1:40             ` Lee Revell
2005-08-14 10:40               ` Wichert Akkerman
2005-08-13 19:20       ` Lee Revell
2005-08-16  9:46       ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-08-14  0:53     ` Alan Cox
2005-08-14  4:10       ` James Cloos
2005-08-14  6:18     ` Jason L Tibbitts III
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2005-08-14 19:59         ` Lee Revell
2005-08-14 20:13           ` Stephen Pollei
2005-08-14 20:22             ` Lee Revell
2005-08-14 22:10               ` "Martin v. Löwis"
2005-08-14 23:55           ` Alan Cox
2005-08-16 13:56           ` David Madore
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2005-08-16 20:17             ` Pete Zaitcev
2005-08-14 21:52       ` Kyle Moffett
2005-08-14 22:12         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-08-15  8:01     ` Helge Hafting
2005-08-31 23:27 ` H. Peter Anvin

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