From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <Linux-Kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] atomic: introduce atomic_inc_not_zero
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:08:35 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <432D2083.6030707@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0509170300030.3743@scrub.home>
Roman Zippel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>
>>Roman: any ideas about what you would prefer? You'll notice
>>atomic_inc_not_zero replaces rcuref_inc_lf, which is used several times
>>in the VFS.
>
>
> In the larger picture I'm not completely happy with these scalibilty
> patches, as they add extra overhead at the lower end. On a UP system in
> general nothing beats:
>
> spin_lock();
> if (*ptr)
> ptr += 1;
> spin_unlock();
>
> The main problem is here that the atomic functions are used in two basic
> situation:
>
> 1) interrupt synchronization
> 2) multiprocessor synchronization
>
> The atomic functions have to assume both, but on UP systems it often is
> a lot cheaper if they don't have to synchronize with interrupts. So
> replacing a spinlock with a few atomic operations can hurt UP performance.
>
Maybe so, but what I'm doing is introducing a slightly better
implementation of what is currently in tree, and attempting to
follow current standards as far as possible. I don't think you
could say that is a bad thing.
Now I don't think anyone would be flat out opposed to 1 - reworking
the atomic.h code to allow some genericity (is that a word?); 2 -
reworking atomic.h code to allow combining of atomic ops, or allowing
interrupt unsafe ops...
Of course, neither is going to be merged unless done tastefully, and
I imagine both would be difficult to get right, with probably a low
cost/benefit ratio.
Thanks,
Nick
--
SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-18 8:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-14 14:48 [PATCH 1/5] atomic: introduce atomic_cmpxchg Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 14:49 ` [PATCH 2/5] atomic: introduce atomic_inc_not_zero Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 14:51 ` [PATCH 3/5] rcu file: use atomic primitives Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 14:55 ` [PATCH 4/5] atomic: dec_and_lock use cmpxchg Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 15:01 ` [PATCH 5/5] remove HAVE_ARCH_CMPXCHG Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 16:31 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-14 16:49 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 17:59 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-14 22:03 ` Russell King
2005-09-14 22:26 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-15 7:10 ` Russell King
2005-09-15 13:08 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-14 15:20 ` [PATCH 4/5] atomic: dec_and_lock use cmpxchg Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 16:24 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-14 16:52 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-17 0:05 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-14 16:16 ` [PATCH 2/5] atomic: introduce atomic_inc_not_zero Roman Zippel
2005-09-14 16:44 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 17:04 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-14 17:18 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-14 22:00 ` Russell King
2005-09-14 22:10 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-14 22:21 ` Russell King
2005-09-15 1:51 ` Nick Piggin
2005-09-17 1:15 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-17 6:36 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-17 10:01 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-17 7:19 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-17 7:34 ` Dipankar Sarma
2005-09-18 8:08 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-09-17 0:59 ` Roman Zippel
2005-09-17 7:18 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-17 7:27 ` Russell King
2005-09-18 6:03 ` David S. Miller
2005-09-14 15:17 ` [PATCH 1/5] atomic: introduce atomic_cmpxchg Russell King
2005-09-14 15:22 ` Nick Piggin
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