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From: Stefan Smietanowski <stesmi@stesmi.com>
To: David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>
Cc: Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>,
	Emmanuel Fleury <fleury@cs.aau.dk>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel ML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: freebox possible GPL violation
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 03:12:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <434479E9.1040704@stesmi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0510051741310.14560@qynat.qvtvafvgr.pbz>

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>> If the box downloads a linux kernel through the DSLAM network, then
>> someone is clearly distributing linux kernels through the DSLAM network.
>> I would guess it is the same guys, because relying on someone else
>> providing
>> them with kernels is a risky business.  But whoever is on the other end
>> of the DSLAM net have to offer the source as well, because they _are_
>> distributing kernels.
>>
>> The fact that the user isn't supposed to know how this box work
>> doesn't change anything, of course.  The GPL says those who
>> distribute the work - it doesn't matter that they don't tell the
>> customer that they're given a linux kernel. They still have to offer
>> the source if asked.
> 
> 
> the argument that they are making is that they are only moveing the
> kernel within their own companies equipment, and therefor it doesn't
> count as 'distribution'
> 
> agree with this argument or not, but please acknowledge this point of
> view rather then pretending that they have no argument at all and are
> just plain refusing.
> 
> David Lang
> 

If one turns it on, doesn't turn it off, pays the 400 EUR and
as a result OWNS it, then what one has is a box that at that point
in time is running Linux and one is the owner of it.

// Stefan
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-06  1:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-05 11:13 freebox possible GPL violation Pierre Michon
2005-10-05 11:22 ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-05 11:27   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-05 11:37     ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-05 11:59       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-05 12:02         ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-05 12:07           ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-05 12:29             ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-05 12:45               ` Michael Poole
2005-10-05 17:11               ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-10-06  0:07               ` Helge Hafting
2005-10-06  0:49                 ` David Lang
2005-10-06  1:12                   ` Stefan Smietanowski [this message]
2005-10-06  2:25                     ` David Lang
2005-10-06  9:20                   ` Helge Hafting
2005-10-06  9:51                     ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-06  9:53                       ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-06 11:39                       ` Helge Hafting
2005-10-06 13:05                         ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-06 13:42                           ` Michael Poole
2005-10-06 14:19                           ` Helge Hafting
2005-10-06 20:15                       ` Stefan Smietanowski
2005-10-11  2:27             ` David Schwartz
2005-10-11 10:48               ` Graham Murray
2005-10-05 12:15           ` Vincent Hanquez
2005-10-05 11:45     ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-10-05 11:59       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-05 11:50 ` Emmanuel Fleury
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-10-06 23:26 Pierre Michon
2005-10-06 12:01 Pierre Michon
2005-10-06 13:06 ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-06 13:40   ` Michael Poole
2005-10-06 14:48     ` Matan Peled
2005-10-05 17:57 Pierre Michon
2005-10-05 16:06 Pierre Michon
2005-10-05 16:47 ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-05 15:18 Pierre Michon
2005-10-05 15:49 ` Vincent Hanquez
2005-10-05 15:12 Pierre Michon
2005-10-05 15:08 Pierre Michon
2005-10-05 10:08 Pierre Michon
2005-10-05 10:18 ` Emmanuel Fleury
2005-10-05  8:47 Pierre Michon
2005-10-05  9:42 ` Helge Hafting
2005-10-15  9:40 ` Loic Dachary
2005-10-19 17:58   ` Pierre Michon
2005-10-20 15:29     ` Loic Dachary

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