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From: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
To: linux@horizon.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: SMP syncronization on AMD processors (broken?)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:25:03 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <434E521F.40100@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051011235017.21719.qmail@science.horizon.com>

Thanks a lot for the interesting idea provided below.
I will try to implement it.

Kirill

>>The whole story started when we wrote the following code:
>>
>>void XXX(void)
>>{
>>	/* ints disabled */
>>restart:
>>	spin_lock(&lock);
>>	do_something();
>>	if (!flag)
>>		need_restart = 1;
>>	spin_unlock(&lock);
>>	if (need_restart)
>>		goto restart;	<<<< LOOPS 4EVER ON AMD!!!
>>}
>>
>>void YYY(void)
>>{
>>	spin_lock(&lock);	<<<< SPINS 4EVER ON AMD!!!
>>	flag = 1;
>>	spin_unlock(&lock);
>>}
>>
>>function XXX() starts on CPU0 and begins to loop since flag is not set, 
>>then CPU1 calls function YYY() and it turns out that it can't take the 
>>lock any arbitrary time.
> 
> 
> The right thing to do here is to wait for the flag to be set *outside*
> the lock, and then re-validate inside the lock:
> 
> void XXX(void)
> {
> 	/* ints disabled */
> restart:
> 	spin_lock(&lock);
> 	do_something();
> 	if (!flag)
> 		need_restart = 1;
> 	spin_unlock(&lock);
> 	if (need_restart) {
> 		while (!flag)
> 			cpu_relax();
> 		goto restart;
> 	}
> }
> 
> This way, XXX() keeps the lock dropped for as long as it takes for
> YYY() to notice and grab it.
> 
> 
> However, I realize that this is of course a simplified case of some real
> code, where even *finding* the flag requires the spin lock.
> 
> The generic solution is to have a global "progress" counter, which
> records "I made progress toward setting flag", that XXX() can
> busy-loop on:
> 
> int progress;
> 
> void XXX(void)
> {
> 	int old_progress;
> 	/* ints disabled */
> restart:
> 	spin_lock(&lock);
> 	do_something();
> 	if (!flag) {
> 		old_progress = progress;
> 		need_restart = 1;
> 	}
> 	spin_unlock(&lock);
> 	if (need_restart) {
> 		while (progress == old_progress)
> 			cpu_relax();
> 		goto restart;
> 	}
> }
> 
> void YYY(void)
> {
> 	spin_lock(&lock);
> 	flag = 1;
> 	progress++;
> 	spin_unlock(&lock);
> }
> 
> It may be that in your data structure, there is one or a series of
> fields that already exist that you can use for the purpose.  The goal
> is to merely detect *change*, so you can reacquire the lock and test
> definitively.  It's okay to read freed memory while doing this, as long as
> you can be sure that:
> - The memory read won't oops the kernel, and
> - You don't end up depending on the value of the freed memory to
>   get you out of the stall.
> 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-10-13 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-11 23:50 SMP syncronization on AMD processors (broken?) linux
2005-10-12  2:12 ` Christopher Friesen
2005-10-12  2:39   ` linux
2005-10-12  3:27     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-10-13 12:25 ` Kirill Korotaev [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-10-08  9:31 Chuck Ebbert
2005-10-06 13:05 Kirill Korotaev
2005-10-06 13:14 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-10-06 13:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-06 13:32   ` Andrey Savochkin
2005-10-06 14:22     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-06 13:32 ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-06 13:46   ` Andrey Savochkin
2005-10-06 14:52     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-06 15:21       ` Andrey Savochkin
2005-10-06 15:46         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-11  0:59         ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-11  1:20           ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-11  3:20             ` Joe Seigh
2005-10-06 13:50   ` Eric Dumazet
2005-10-06 14:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-06 15:34   ` Hugh Dickins
2005-10-06 15:53     ` Eric Dumazet
2005-10-06 16:01     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-07 20:38 ` Joe Seigh
2005-10-07 20:57   ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-10-13 18:24 ` Joe Seigh

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