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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Possible memory ordering bug in page reclaim?
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 18:59:34 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4350C4F6.4030807@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1129362196.7620.8.camel@gaston>

Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 07:17 +0100, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> 
>>On Sat, 15 Oct 2005, Nick Piggin wrote:
>>

>>>1                                2
>>>find_get_page();
>>>write to page                    write_lock(tree_lock);
>>>SetPageDirty();                  if (page_count != 2
>>>put_page();                          || PageDirty())
>>>
>>>Now I'm worried that 2 might see PageDirty *before* SetPageDirty in
>>
>>                                  page->flags
>>
>>>1, and page_count *after* put_page in 1.
>>
>>I think you're right.  But I'm the last person to ask
>>barrier/ordering questions of.  CC'ed Ben and Andrea.
> 
> 
> yup, now the question is wether PG_Dirty will be visible to CPU 2 before
> the page count is decremented right ? That depends on put_page, I
> suppose. If it's doing a simple atomic, there is an issue. But atomics
> with return has been so often abused as locks that they may have been
> implemented with a barrier... (On ppc64, it will do an eieio, thus I
> think it should be ok).
> 

Well yes, that's on the store side (1, above). However can't a CPU
still speculatively (eg. guess the branch) load the page->flags
cacheline which might be satisfied from memory before the page->count
cacheline loads? Ie. you can still have the correct write ordering
but have incorrect read ordering?

Because neither PageDirty nor page_count is a barrier, and there is
no read barrier between them.

Nick

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SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-10-15  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-15  3:28 Possible memory ordering bug in page reclaim? Nick Piggin
2005-10-15  6:17 ` Hugh Dickins
2005-10-15  7:43   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-10-15  8:00     ` Herbert Xu
2005-10-15 16:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-15 19:29         ` David S. Miller
2005-10-15 22:17           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-10-16  0:04         ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-15  8:59     ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-10-15 12:08       ` Herbert Xu
2005-10-15 13:35         ` Nick Piggin
2005-10-15 18:00         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-15 19:48           ` Herbert Xu
2005-10-15 20:07             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-15 23:07               ` David S. Miller
2005-10-16 19:36                 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2005-10-17  4:29                   ` David S. Miller
2005-10-17  7:23                     ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2005-10-17 11:28                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-10-15 22:16           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-10-15 23:13             ` David S. Miller

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