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From: George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/39] NLKD/i386 - time adjustment
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:17:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4373E32D.20409@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43730EE8.76F0.0078.0@novell.com>

Jan Beulich wrote:
~
> 
> gcc can do long long multiplies fine, but only with a long long result.
> The code presented, however, needs (at least) 96 bits of the result,
> which expressing in C would be far more complicated than doing it with a
> couple of assembly statements.
> 
Well, if you need that many bits... guess I would need to study the code (hard with binary 
attachments) to understand why you need so many bits.
> 
>>I really do not see the relavence of the run time library patches
> 
~

> 
> Which run time library patches are you referring to? NLKD's? If so,
> these routines must not be used by code outside of the debugger (and the
> opposite is true, too: debugger code must not use common code routines
> where ever possible).

Just what is your argument here?  As I understand it this is only a problem (i.e. sharing the code) 
if you are trying to single step or set breakpoints in the library code.
> 
> Further, it is my understanding that it is for a (unknown to me) reason
> that the linux kernel doesn't have the full set of libgcc support
> routines. Since the debugger in various places relies on being able to
> do 64-bit math on 32-bit systems, I had to add these in a way so that
> they'd be hidden from the rest of the kernel (and also so that they'd
> satisfy the isolation rules outlined above).

Well, the powers that be, decided that the kernel did not need the "missing" routines and that they 
just added bloat.  One then wonders why a debugger needs them.  Could you enlighten us on this?

-- 
George Anzinger   george@mvista.com
HRT (High-res-timers):  http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers/

  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-11  0:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-09 13:54 [PATCH 0/39] NLKD - Novell Linux Kernel Debugger Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 13:56 ` [PATCH 1/39] NLKD - an alternative kallsyms approach Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 13:57   ` [PATCH 2/39] NLKD - an alternative early ioremap approach Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 13:58     ` [PATCH 3/39] NLKD - early/late CPU up/down notification Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 13:59       ` [PATCH 4/39] NLKD/i386 " Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:01       ` [PATCH 5/39] NLKD/x86-64 " Jan Beulich
2005-11-10 13:10         ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-14  8:04           ` [discuss] " Jan Beulich
2005-11-14 12:37             ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-09 14:01       ` [PATCH 6/39] NLKD - early panic notification Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:02         ` [PATCH 7/39] NLKD - task create/destroy notification Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:03           ` [PATCH 8/39] NLKD - rmmod notification Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:04             ` [PATCH 9/39] NLKD - hotkey notification Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:05               ` [PATCH 10/39] NLKD - console layout change notification Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:06                 ` [PATCH 11/39] NLKD - time adjustment Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:06                   ` [PATCH 12/39] NLKD/i386 " Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 19:10                     ` George Anzinger
2005-11-10  8:12                       ` Jan Beulich
2005-11-11  0:17                         ` George Anzinger [this message]
2005-11-09 14:08                   ` [PATCH 13/39] NLKD/x86-64 " Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:13                     ` [PATCH 18/39] NLKD/x86-64 - INT1/INT3 handling changes Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:14                       ` [PATCH 19/39] NLKD/x86-64 - stack-pointer-invalid markers Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:15                         ` [PATCH 20/39] NLKD/x86-64 - switch_to() floating point adjustment Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:16                           ` [PATCH 21/39] NLKD/x86-64 - core adjustments Jan Beulich
2005-11-10 13:24                           ` [PATCH 20/39] NLKD/x86-64 - switch_to() floating point adjustment Andi Kleen
2005-11-10 14:07                             ` Jan Beulich
2005-11-10 13:23                         ` [PATCH 19/39] NLKD/x86-64 - stack-pointer-invalid markers Andi Kleen
2005-11-10 14:25                           ` Jan Beulich
2005-11-10 13:21                       ` [PATCH 18/39] NLKD/x86-64 - INT1/INT3 handling changes Andi Kleen
2005-11-10 14:07                         ` Jan Beulich
2005-11-10 14:25                           ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-10 15:00                             ` Jan Beulich
2005-11-11  3:39                               ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2005-11-10 13:19                     ` [PATCH 13/39] NLKD/x86-64 - time adjustment Andi Kleen
2005-11-10 14:23                       ` Jan Beulich
2005-11-11  2:12                         ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-12  9:22                           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-11-12 17:21                             ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-12 20:44                               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-11-15  0:38                                 ` George Anzinger
2005-11-15  1:05                                   ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2005-11-15  7:50                                     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-11-15  8:24                                       ` Jan Beulich
2005-11-10 14:43                       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-11-09 14:09                   ` [PATCH 14/39] NLKD - kernel trace buffer access Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:09                     ` [PATCH 15/39] NLKD - early pseudo-fs Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:11                       ` [PATCH 16/39] NLKD - core adjustments Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:11                         ` [PATCH 17/39] NLKD/i386 " Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 19:00                           ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-10  8:04                             ` Jan Beulich
2005-11-10 10:29                               ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-10 11:52                                 ` Jan Beulich
2005-11-10 12:36                                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-11-09 14:18                         ` [PATCH 22/39] NLKD - core Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:19                           ` [PATCH 23/39] NLKD/x86 " Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:20                             ` [PATCH 24/39] NLKD/i386 " Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:21                             ` [PATCH 25/39] NLKD/x86-64 " Jan Beulich
2005-11-10 13:30                               ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-09 14:22                           ` [PATCH 26/39] NLKD - run time library Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:23                             ` [PATCH 27/39] NLKD/i386 " Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:23                               ` [PATCH 28/39] NLKD/x86-64 " Jan Beulich
2005-11-10 13:32                                 ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                             ` <437214B7.76F0.0078.0@novell.com>
     [not found]                               ` <4372156A.76F0.0078.0@novell.com>
2005-11-09 14:28                                 ` [PATCH 34/39] NLKD/x86 - Console Debug Agent Jan Beulich
     [not found]                                 ` <43721600.76F0.0078.0@novell.com>
2005-11-09 14:30                                   ` [PATCH 38/39] NLKD/i386 - Remote " Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:31                                   ` [PATCH 39/39] NLKD/x86-64 " Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 14:29                       ` [PATCH 15/39] NLKD - early pseudo-fs Al Viro
2005-11-09 14:37                         ` Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 15:00                           ` Al Viro
2005-11-09 16:00                             ` Jan Beulich
2005-11-10  5:44                     ` [PATCH 14/39] NLKD - kernel trace buffer access Keith Owens
2005-11-10  8:02                       ` Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 18:51                   ` [PATCH 11/39] NLKD - time adjustment George Anzinger
2005-11-09 16:50         ` [PATCH 6/39] NLKD - early panic notification Greg KH
2005-11-09 16:45       ` [PATCH 3/39] NLKD - early/late CPU up/down notification Greg KH
2005-11-09 17:09         ` Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 17:19           ` Greg KH
2005-11-10  7:41             ` Jan Beulich
2005-11-10 20:59               ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-11-11  7:52                 ` Jan Beulich
2005-11-12 20:52                   ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-11-10 23:01               ` Greg KH
2005-11-11 10:06     ` [PATCH 2/39] NLKD - an alternative early ioremap approach Pavel Machek
2005-11-11 10:19       ` Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 16:50   ` [PATCH 1/39] NLKD - an alternative kallsyms approach Randy.Dunlap
2005-11-09 16:57     ` Greg KH
2005-11-09 17:20     ` Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 16:59 ` [PATCH 0/39] NLKD - Novell Linux Kernel Debugger Jeff Garzik
2005-11-09 17:06   ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-11-09 17:14     ` Jan Beulich
2005-11-09 17:56       ` Alan Cox
2005-11-09 18:05       ` Greg KH
2005-11-09 18:54       ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-10 12:41       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-11-13  1:09     ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-13  2:53       ` jmerkey
2005-11-13  3:44         ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-13  3:26           ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-13  3:32             ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-09 17:53   ` Alan Cox
2005-11-09 16:25     ` Jeffrey V. Merkey
2005-11-10 14:48     ` Mark Lord
2005-11-10 15:28       ` Tom Rini
2005-11-10 16:37       ` Alan Cox
2005-11-13  1:11       ` Andi Kleen
     [not found] ` <437214E4.76F0.0078.0@novell.com>
     [not found]   ` <4372153C.76F0.0078.0@novell.com>
2005-11-10 13:33     ` [PATCH 32/39] NLKD/x86-64 - Core Debug Engine Andi Kleen

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