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From: Marc Perkel <marc@perkel.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Alistair John Strachan <s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Does Linux support powering down SATA drives?
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 13:20:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <437F9705.80503@perkel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1132431907.19692.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>



Alan Cox wrote:

>On Sad, 2005-11-19 at 19:00 +0000, Alistair John Strachan wrote:
>  
>
>>>SATA not yet, USB you could however.
>>>      
>>>
>>Or PATA, of course. I switch off two of my HDs 4 minutes after last use with 
>>the commands:
>>
>>hdparm -S 48 /dev/hde
>>hdparm -S 48 /dev/hdg
>>
>>Isn't there a passthru patch in the works to let commands, such as the one 
>>required for suspend, through to a SATA device?
>>    
>>
>
>The latest kernels support command passthrough for SMART and the like
>but hdparm -S does not "switch off" anything. It may spin a drive down
>but the power consumption of 23 hours a day of "spun down" is
>significant, probably more than the hour it is powered up.
>
>Same as the problem with many household devices in standby that actually
>end up using as lot of power in their many "turned off" hours
>  
>

I didn't actually mean totally power off. Spin down would be fine with 
me. Just seems like a waste to run a drive for 24 hours that is used 
only for 10 minutes. That drive is there so if the main drive blows I 
can run down to the datacenter and move one cable and be back up again.

You know what's interesting is that I read somewhere that computers use 
as much power as 4 hoover dams can generate. And since a lit of these 
computer are running Linux just a few lines of code can create enough 
energy savings to perhaps power a small city. Kind of amazing when you 
think about it.

SATA isn't really "new" any more. I personally consider IDE to be 
obsolete. Seems to me that Linux should fully support SATA to the same 
level as IDE drives. And I'm saying that as someone who doesn't have to 
actually code it. But I will leave messages of praise and thanks in this 
mailing list if you all catch up.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-19 21:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-19 17:41 Does Linux support powering down SATA drives? Marc Perkel
2005-11-19 19:01 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-19 19:00   ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-11-19 19:14     ` Marc Perkel
2005-11-19 19:20       ` USB storage -> Oops (2.6.14.2) JaniD++
2005-11-19 19:43       ` Does Linux support powering down SATA drives? Jeff Woods
2005-11-19 20:25     ` Alan Cox
2005-11-19 20:21       ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-11-19 20:30         ` Ondrej Zary
2005-11-19 21:49         ` Alan Cox
2005-11-19 21:20       ` Marc Perkel [this message]
2005-11-19 23:04         ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-11-20  7:22           ` asmith
2005-11-20 15:53             ` Marc Perkel
2005-11-20 16:04               ` Tomasz Torcz
2005-11-20 16:07                 ` Marc Perkel
2005-11-20 16:17                   ` Tomasz Torcz
2005-11-20 16:08             ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-11-21 16:21             ` Rob Landley
2005-11-21 16:51               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-21 17:34                 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-21 17:14             ` Jason L Tibbitts III
2005-11-20  1:59       ` Rogério Brito
2005-11-20  2:09         ` resyncing broken software raid 1 Marc Perkel
2005-11-20  2:23           ` Kyle Moffett
2005-11-21  7:25             ` Jens Axboe
2005-11-20 23:55       ` Does Linux support powering down SATA drives? Pavel Machek
2005-11-21  8:48         ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-11-20  1:54   ` Rogério Brito
2005-11-20  0:57 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-11-21 15:43   ` Mark Lord
2005-11-21 15:49     ` Marc Perkel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-20 12:20 Douglas Gilbert
2005-11-21  0:27 Nicolas Mailhot
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2005-11-21  3:39         ` Robert Hancock

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