From: Avi Kivity <avi@argo.co.il>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Small PCI core patch
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:40:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <438349F4.2080405@argo.co.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051122162506.GA32684@havoc.gtf.org>
Jeff Garzik wrote:
>On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 06:14:56PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
>
>
>>You exaggerate. Windows drivers work well enough in Windows (or so I
>>presume). One just has to implement the environment these drivers
>>expect, very carefully.
>>
>>
>
>I exaggerate nothing -- we have real world experience with ndiswrapper
>and similar software, which is exactly the same model you proposed, is
>exactly the same model that has created all sorts of technical, legal,
>and political problems.
>
>
I agree that the legal and political problems are real. I offered two
solutions to the technical problems.
However the situation with video drivers is already bad, and
deteriorating. I had to hunt on the Internet to get my recent (FC4)
distro to support my low-end embedded video (via). In the future it
looks like even that won't work.
>Dumb with a capital 'D'.
>
>
I hope you have a better solution.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-22 16:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-21 22:53 [RFC] Small PCI core patch Greg KH
2005-11-21 23:01 ` Greg KH
2005-11-21 23:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-11-22 0:47 ` Dave Airlie
2005-11-22 1:34 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-22 2:20 ` Jon Smirl
2005-11-22 2:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-11-22 3:01 ` Jon Smirl
2005-11-22 7:41 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-22 8:44 ` Dave Airlie
2005-11-22 2:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-11-22 3:23 ` Jon Smirl
2005-11-22 3:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-11-22 4:11 ` Neil Brown
2005-11-22 8:07 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-11-22 14:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-22 16:33 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-22 16:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-22 10:58 ` Florian Weimer
2005-11-22 19:28 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-23 15:46 ` Jesper Juhl
2005-11-24 2:11 ` Lee Revell
2005-11-22 15:46 ` Avi Kivity
2005-11-22 15:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-22 16:14 ` Avi Kivity
2005-11-22 16:25 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-22 16:40 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2005-11-22 16:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-22 17:11 ` Avi Kivity
2005-11-22 17:37 ` Brian Gerst
2005-11-22 17:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-22 19:39 ` Avi Kivity
2005-11-23 10:51 ` Rogério Brito
2005-11-23 14:29 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-22 18:38 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-22 19:47 ` Avi Kivity
2005-11-22 16:26 ` Diego Calleja
2005-11-22 16:35 ` Avi Kivity
2005-11-22 19:49 ` Diego Calleja
2005-11-22 20:08 ` Avi Kivity
2005-11-22 20:15 ` Lee Revell
2005-11-22 20:43 ` Diego Calleja
2005-11-22 22:00 ` Avi Kivity
2005-11-22 22:42 ` Jan Knutar
2005-11-22 14:07 ` Marc Koschewski
2005-11-22 22:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-11-22 23:06 ` Marc Koschewski
2005-11-22 23:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-11-22 14:25 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-22 14:26 ` today's graphics (was Re: [RFC] Small PCI core patch) Jeff Garzik
2005-11-22 18:58 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-22 18:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-22 1:21 ` [RFC] Small PCI core patch Greg KH
2005-11-22 1:28 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-11-22 1:42 ` Greg KH
2005-11-22 5:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-22 14:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-22 16:54 ` Jon Smirl
2005-11-22 20:17 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-22 21:13 ` Brian Gerst
2005-11-22 23:26 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-22 22:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-11-22 6:57 ` Rob Landley
2005-11-22 18:26 ` Matthieu CASTET
2005-11-22 19:05 ` Greg KH
2005-11-22 20:15 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-23 3:26 ` Andrew James Wade
2005-11-21 23:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-21 23:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-11-22 17:50 ` Greg KH
2005-11-22 22:31 ` Harald Dunkel
2005-11-22 23:40 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-23 6:06 ` Harald Dunkel
2005-11-23 6:26 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-23 11:11 ` Alan Cox
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[not found] ` <5bzmg-66b-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <5bHtG-228-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
2005-11-25 4:06 ` Robert Hancock
2005-11-25 6:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-25 13:54 ` Alan Cox
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