From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932495AbVLESUg (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:20:36 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932496AbVLESUg (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:20:36 -0500 Received: from mail.dvmed.net ([216.237.124.58]:53899 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932495AbVLESUf (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:20:35 -0500 Message-ID: <439484EC.5080406@pobox.com> Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 13:20:28 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.1.fc4 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergei Organov CC: Sergey Vlasov , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: SATA ICH6M problems on Sharp M4000 References: <200511221013.04798.marekw1977> <87u0dri996.fsf@javad.com> <20051205202228.13232c10.vsu@altlinux.ru> <874q5nfm1e.fsf@javad.com> In-Reply-To: <874q5nfm1e.fsf@javad.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "srv2.dvmed.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Sergei Organov wrote: > Sergey Vlasov writes: > >>On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 22:33:57 +0300 Sergei Organov wrote: >> >> >>>Sorry, but provided ata_piix has ignored the optical drive, couldn't >>>corresponding I/O resource be left free so that subsequently loaded, >>>say, generic-ide module is able to get over and support the drive? >>> >>>BTW, loading the modules in reverse order helped on 2.6.13 kernel (that >>>I'm currently using) as generic-ide didn't recognize the hard-drive at >>>all allowing ata_piix to get over it later. With 2.6.14 kernel >>>generic-ide does recognize both hard-drive and optical drive thus >>>preventing ata_piix from managing the hard-drive :( >> >>See http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/10/18/167 and the reply to it :-\ > > > Well, Jef's answer was: > > This is a reasonable point, but the rare person who runs modular IDE on > these PATA/SATA combined mode beasts can certainly tell the IDE driver > to not probe certain ports. > > I can say that the kernel I have problem with is from Debian "testing" > distribution so those "rare person" going to become quite a few in the > near future. Besides, Debian loads ata_piix first, then IDE, so telling > the IDE to ignore certain ports won't help. > > Though one can argue that that's yet another distribution problem, I > fail to see a way for a distribution to overcome the problem provided it > doesn't know the exact hardware it will run on. No hope for modularized > kernel to run out of the box on given hardware? > > Jeff, is there any hope it will be fixed in the kernel.org sources, or > should I report the problem to Debian instead so that they consider > maintaining their own patch? [...] Content analysis details: (0.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL RBL: SORBS: sent directly from dynamic IP address [69.134.188.146 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Sergei Organov wrote: > Sergey Vlasov writes: > >>On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 22:33:57 +0300 Sergei Organov wrote: >> >> >>>Sorry, but provided ata_piix has ignored the optical drive, couldn't >>>corresponding I/O resource be left free so that subsequently loaded, >>>say, generic-ide module is able to get over and support the drive? >>> >>>BTW, loading the modules in reverse order helped on 2.6.13 kernel (that >>>I'm currently using) as generic-ide didn't recognize the hard-drive at >>>all allowing ata_piix to get over it later. With 2.6.14 kernel >>>generic-ide does recognize both hard-drive and optical drive thus >>>preventing ata_piix from managing the hard-drive :( >> >>See http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/10/18/167 and the reply to it :-\ > > > Well, Jef's answer was: > > This is a reasonable point, but the rare person who runs modular IDE on > these PATA/SATA combined mode beasts can certainly tell the IDE driver > to not probe certain ports. > > I can say that the kernel I have problem with is from Debian "testing" > distribution so those "rare person" going to become quite a few in the > near future. Besides, Debian loads ata_piix first, then IDE, so telling > the IDE to ignore certain ports won't help. > > Though one can argue that that's yet another distribution problem, I > fail to see a way for a distribution to overcome the problem provided it > doesn't know the exact hardware it will run on. No hope for modularized > kernel to run out of the box on given hardware? > > Jeff, is there any hope it will be fixed in the kernel.org sources, or > should I report the problem to Debian instead so that they consider > maintaining their own patch? Debian doesn't need to maintain a patch, they should load modules in the proper order. Jeff