public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Peter Staubach <staubach@redhat.com>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Kenny Simpson <theonetruekenny@yahoo.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: another nfs puzzle
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 10:34:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4397011E.9010703@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1133966063.27373.29.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>

Trond Myklebust wrote:

>>Yup, same problem.  Why is this allowed?  Does it really work correctly?
>>    
>>
>
>Assuming that the processes have _some_ method of synchronisation, then
>I cannot see why it shouldn't be workable. Come to think of it, it might
>even be possible to use O_DIRECT to provide that synchronisation (use
>O_DIRECT to set a "lock" on the page, then modify it using mmap). 
>
>Whether or not there are people out there that actually _want_ to do
>this is a different matter.
>

Mixing O_DIRECT i/o and cached i/o is probably a recipe for disaster,
unless the cooperating programs are very careful and very aware of how
the particular file system in the particular kernel implements direct
i/o and caching, including cache validation.

This seems like a dangerous enough area that denying mmap on a file which
has been opened with O_DIRECT by any process and denying open(O_DIRECT)
on a file which has been mmap'd would be a good thing.  These things are
easy enough to keep track of, so it shouldn't be too hard to implement.

    Thanx...

       ps

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-07 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-06 22:04 another nfs puzzle Kenny Simpson
2005-12-07  3:24 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-07 14:50   ` Kenny Simpson
2005-12-07 14:01 ` Peter Staubach
2005-12-07 14:11   ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-07 14:18     ` Peter Staubach
2005-12-07 14:34       ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-07 15:34         ` Peter Staubach [this message]
2005-12-07 15:41           ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-07 15:56             ` Peter Staubach
2005-12-07 16:09               ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-07 16:39                 ` Peter Staubach

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=4397011E.9010703@redhat.com \
    --to=staubach@redhat.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=theonetruekenny@yahoo.com \
    --cc=trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox