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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: akpm@osdl.org, paulmck@us.ibm.com, oleg@tv-sign.ru,
	vatsa@in.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dipankar@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix RCU race in access of nohz_cpu_mask
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:47:55 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <439D00FB.9000909@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051211.203809.127057416.davem@davemloft.net>

David S. Miller wrote:
> From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:32:26 -0800
> 
> 
>>So foo_mb() in preemptible code is potentially buggy.
>>
>>I guess we assume that a context switch accidentally did enough of the
>>right types of barriers for things to work OK.
> 
> 
> A trap ought to flush all memory operations.
> 
> There are some incredibly difficult memory error handling cases if the
> cpu does not synchronize all pending memory operations when a trap
> occurs.
> 
> Failing that, yes, to be absolutely safe we'd need to have some
> explicit memory barrier in the context switch.

But it isn't that mbs in preemptible code are buggy. If they are
scheduled off then back on the same CPU, the barrier will still
be executed in the expected instruction sequence for that process.

I think the minimum needed is for cpu *migrations* to be memory
barriers. Again, this isn't any particular problem of mb()
instructions - if cpu migrations weren't memory barriers, then
preemptible code isn't even guaranteed ordering with its own memory
operations, which would be quite interesting :)

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-12  4:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-08 19:31 [PATCH] Fix RCU race in access of nohz_cpu_mask Oleg Nesterov
2005-12-09  2:46 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-12-09 19:17   ` Oleg Nesterov
2005-12-10 15:19     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-12-10 18:55       ` Oleg Nesterov
2005-12-11 17:41         ` Semantics of smp_mb() [was : Re: [PATCH] Fix RCU race in access of nohz_cpu_mask ] Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-12-11 21:21           ` Andrew James Wade
2005-12-11 23:45             ` Rusty Russell
2005-12-12  0:49               ` Keith Owens
2005-12-12  8:41                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-12-12 19:33                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2005-12-13  5:20                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-12-13  5:07               ` Andrew James Wade
2005-12-13  5:43                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-12-13 11:20                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-13 16:20                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-12-13 22:27                     ` Keith Owens
2005-12-13 22:50                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-12-14  1:12                         ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-14  1:46                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2005-12-15 21:15                       ` Semantics of smp_mb() Roland Dreier
2005-12-16  7:46                       ` Semantics of smp_mb() [was : Re: [PATCH] Fix RCU race in access of nohz_cpu_mask ] Jeremy Higdon
2006-03-13 18:39                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-03-31  4:56                           ` Jeremy Higdon
2006-03-31  6:18                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2006-03-31 23:38                             ` Jesse Barnes
2005-12-12  3:10         ` [PATCH] Fix RCU race in access of nohz_cpu_mask Paul E. McKenney
2005-12-12  4:32           ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-12  4:38             ` David S. Miller
2005-12-12  4:47               ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-12-12  4:49             ` Paul Mackerras
2005-12-12  6:27             ` Keith Owens
2005-12-09  2:56 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-12-05 11:02 Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-12-08  0:37 ` Andrew Morton

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