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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au,
	Simon.Derr@bull.net, ak@suse.de, clameter@sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Cpuset: rcu optimization of page alloc hook
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:31:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <439EF75D.50206@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051213075345.c39f335d.pj@sgi.com>

Paul Jackson a écrit :

> 
> 
> Hmmm ... I suspect one possible downside.
> 
> I would think we would want to spread the hot spots out, to reduce the
> chance of getting two hot spots in the same cache line, and starting a
> bidding war for that line.
> 
> So my intuition is:
>   If read alot but seldom written, mark "__read_mostly".
>   If seldom read or written, leave unmarked.
> 

Your analysis is very good but not complete :)

There are different kind of hot cache lines, depending if they are :
- Mostly read
- read/written

Say you move to read mostly most of struct kmem_cache *, they are guaranteed 
to stay in 'mostly read'.

Mixing for example filp_cachep and dcache_lock in the same cache line is not a 
good thing. And this is what happening on typical kernel :

c04f15f0 B dcache_lock
c04f15f4 B names_cachep
c04f15f8 B filp_cachep
c04f15fc b rename_lock

I do think we should have defined a special section for very hot (and written) 
spots. It's more easy to locate thos hot spots than 'mostly read and shared by 
all cpus without cache ping pongs' places...




> so as to leave plenty of the rarely used (neither read nor written on
> kernel hot path code) as "cannon fodder" to fill the rest of the cache
> lines favored by the hot data.
> 
> This leads me to ask, of any item marked "__read_mostly":
> 
>   Is it accessed (for read, presumably) frequently, on a hot path?
> 
> If not, then I'd favor (absent actual measurements to the contrary) not
> marking it.
> 
> By this criteria:
> 
>   1) I would -not- mark "struct kmem_cache *cpuset" __read_mostly, as it
>      is rarely accessed on -any- code path, much less a hot one.  It is
>      ideal cannon fodder.
> 
>   2) I -would- (following a private email suggestion of Christoph Lameter)
>      mark my recently added "int number_of_cpusets" __read_mostly,
>      because it is accessed for every zone considered in the loops
>      within^Wbeneath __alloc_pages().
> 
> Disclaimer -- none of the above speculation is tempered by the heat of any
> actual performance measurements.  Hence, it is worth about as much as my
> legal advice.
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-13 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-11 23:31 [PATCH] Cpuset: rcu optimization of page alloc hook Paul Jackson
2005-12-12  3:29 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-12  6:11   ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-12  6:21     ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-12  6:50       ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-12  8:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-12  8:54   ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-12  9:06     ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-12  9:11     ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-12  9:38       ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-12 10:02   ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-12 10:12     ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-13 15:53       ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 16:31         ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2005-12-13 17:42           ` Christoph Lameter
2005-12-13 17:56             ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-13 18:07               ` Christoph Lameter
2005-12-13 21:03               ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 21:16                 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-12-13 21:38                 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-13 22:23                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 22:29                     ` Christoph Lameter
2005-12-14  3:54                     ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-14  4:02                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-14  4:06                         ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-14  8:06                     ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-14  8:40                       ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 20:08           ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 20:29             ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-13 22:35               ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 21:44           ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 17:37         ` Christoph Lameter

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