From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au,
Simon.Derr@bull.net, ak@suse.de, clameter@sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Cpuset: rcu optimization of page alloc hook
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:31:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <439EF75D.50206@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051213075345.c39f335d.pj@sgi.com>
Paul Jackson a écrit :
>
>
> Hmmm ... I suspect one possible downside.
>
> I would think we would want to spread the hot spots out, to reduce the
> chance of getting two hot spots in the same cache line, and starting a
> bidding war for that line.
>
> So my intuition is:
> If read alot but seldom written, mark "__read_mostly".
> If seldom read or written, leave unmarked.
>
Your analysis is very good but not complete :)
There are different kind of hot cache lines, depending if they are :
- Mostly read
- read/written
Say you move to read mostly most of struct kmem_cache *, they are guaranteed
to stay in 'mostly read'.
Mixing for example filp_cachep and dcache_lock in the same cache line is not a
good thing. And this is what happening on typical kernel :
c04f15f0 B dcache_lock
c04f15f4 B names_cachep
c04f15f8 B filp_cachep
c04f15fc b rename_lock
I do think we should have defined a special section for very hot (and written)
spots. It's more easy to locate thos hot spots than 'mostly read and shared by
all cpus without cache ping pongs' places...
> so as to leave plenty of the rarely used (neither read nor written on
> kernel hot path code) as "cannon fodder" to fill the rest of the cache
> lines favored by the hot data.
>
> This leads me to ask, of any item marked "__read_mostly":
>
> Is it accessed (for read, presumably) frequently, on a hot path?
>
> If not, then I'd favor (absent actual measurements to the contrary) not
> marking it.
>
> By this criteria:
>
> 1) I would -not- mark "struct kmem_cache *cpuset" __read_mostly, as it
> is rarely accessed on -any- code path, much less a hot one. It is
> ideal cannon fodder.
>
> 2) I -would- (following a private email suggestion of Christoph Lameter)
> mark my recently added "int number_of_cpusets" __read_mostly,
> because it is accessed for every zone considered in the loops
> within^Wbeneath __alloc_pages().
>
> Disclaimer -- none of the above speculation is tempered by the heat of any
> actual performance measurements. Hence, it is worth about as much as my
> legal advice.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-13 16:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-11 23:31 [PATCH] Cpuset: rcu optimization of page alloc hook Paul Jackson
2005-12-12 3:29 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-12 6:11 ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-12 6:21 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-12 6:50 ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-12 8:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-12 8:54 ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-12 9:06 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-12 9:11 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-12 9:38 ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-12 10:02 ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-12 10:12 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-13 15:53 ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 16:31 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2005-12-13 17:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-12-13 17:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-13 18:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-12-13 21:03 ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 21:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-12-13 21:38 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-13 22:23 ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 22:29 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-12-14 3:54 ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-14 4:02 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-14 4:06 ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-14 8:06 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-14 8:40 ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 20:08 ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 20:29 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-13 22:35 ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 21:44 ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 17:37 ` Christoph Lameter
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