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From: Vitaly Wool <vwool@ru.mvista.com>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dpervushin@gmail.com,
	akpm@osdl.org, greg@kroah.com, basicmark@yahoo.com,
	komal_shah802003@yahoo.com, stephen@streetfiresound.com,
	spi-devel-general@lists.sourceforge.net, Joachim_Jaeger@digi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:15:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <439F47F1.1060909@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200512131101.02025.david-b@pacbell.net>

David Brownell wrote:

>That's not "core" in the normal "everyone must use this" sense.
>Even the folk that do use synchronous transfers aren't always
>going to use that particular codepath.
>  
>
Lemme explain once more why what you have is a lot worse than what I 
suggest.
Take for instance spi_w8r8 function used in lotsa places in the drivers 
you and Stephen have posted.
This function has a) *implicit memcpy* inherited from 
spi_write_then_read b) *implicit priority inversion* inherited from the 
same place.
On the other hand, any smart enough SPI controller driver wouldn't ever 
want to send and receive one byte via DMA, especially chaining messages 
because the overhead will be great; memcpy's also adding overhead. It's 
gonna use PIO instead.
So this is a serious reason to let controller driver decide things 
related to memory allocation. It doesn't concern only static-allocated 
buffers but also, say, stack-allocated (used in your core in many 
places). And controller driver needs something to track whether it has 
allocated a buffer for transfer for DMA safety or not. Don't you want a 
linked list of  allocated buffers in the controller driver?! And the 
flag I'm adding within the patch does that with minimal intrusion to 
your core.

Hope that helps understand my reasons.

Vitaly

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-12-13 22:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-12 15:20 [PATCH 2.6-git 0/4] SPI core refresh Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:22 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 1/4] SPI core refresh: SPI core patch Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:49   ` Russell King
2005-12-12 15:24 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 2/4] SPI core refresh: MTD dataflash driver Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:26 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 3/4] SPI core refresh: SPI/PNX controller Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 15:27 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 4/4] SPI core refresh: dumb EEPROM driver Vitaly Wool
2005-12-12 18:01 ` [PATCH 2.6-git 0/4] SPI core refresh Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 12:09   ` [spi-devel-general] " dmitry pervushin
2005-12-13 15:11     ` Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 17:06       ` dmitry pervushin
2005-12-14  6:57       ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 14:28         ` Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 16:35     ` David Brownell
2005-12-13 18:02       ` Rui Sousa
2005-12-13 14:06 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add async message handing library to David Brownell's core Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 16:53   ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog " Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 19:01     ` David Brownell
2005-12-13 19:15       ` Greg KH
2005-12-14 13:50         ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 17:18           ` Greg KH
2005-12-14 17:53             ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 18:50               ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-14 19:29                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 19:02               ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core David Brownell
2005-12-14 19:19                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 19:33                   ` [spi-devel-general] Re: [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-14 19:34                 ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15  6:47                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 16:44                   ` Greg KH
2005-12-15 22:23                     ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 23:02                       ` Greg KH
2005-12-16  8:37                         ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-16 17:34                           ` Greg KH
2005-12-16 18:32                             ` [spi-devel-general] Re: [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-15 20:06                   ` David Brownell
2005-12-15 22:17                     ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 22:33                       ` Greg KH
2005-12-16  3:34                         ` Andy Isaacson
2005-12-16  5:17                           ` Greg KH
2005-12-14 19:16               ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core Greg KH
2005-12-14 19:30                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-15 10:00               ` [spi-devel-general] " dmitry pervushin
2005-12-14 17:22           ` David Brownell
2005-12-14 17:50             ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 19:17               ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog David Brownell
2005-12-14 20:11                 ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 21:47       ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add DMAUNSAFE analog to David Brownell's core Vitaly Wool
2005-12-13 22:15       ` Vitaly Wool [this message]
2005-12-14 16:55         ` David Brownell
2005-12-14 17:23           ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 18:48   ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add async message handing library " Stephen Street
2005-12-14 19:41     ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-14 21:19       ` Stephen Street
2005-12-14 19:31   ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: add async message handing library David Brownell
2005-12-15 12:19   ` [PATCH/RFC] SPI: async message handing library update Vitaly Wool
2005-12-18 18:59     ` David Brownell
2005-12-19 15:40       ` [spi-devel-general] " dmitry pervushin
2005-12-20  7:23         ` David Brownell
2005-12-20 18:02       ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-22 17:28         ` David Brownell
2005-12-22 22:10           ` Vitaly Wool
2005-12-22 23:55             ` David Brownell
2005-12-21 13:17       ` Vitaly Wool

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