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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Cc: clameter@engr.sgi.com, akpm@osdl.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au,
	Simon.Derr@bull.net, ak@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Cpuset: rcu optimization of page alloc hook
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:06:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <439FD295.7070102@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051213142346.ccd3081a.pj@sgi.com>

Paul Jackson a écrit :
> Eric wrote:
> 
>>struct kmem_cache  itself will be about 512*8 + some bytes
>>then for each cpu a 'struct array_cache' will be allocated (count 128 bytes 
> 
> 
> Hmmm ... 'struct array_cache' looks to be about 6 integer words,
> so if that is the main per-CPU cost, the minimal cost of a slab
> cache (once created, before use) is about 24 bytes per cpu.

Nope, because struct array_cache includes a variable length table of pointers 
to hold a cache of available objects per cpu. The 'limit' (the number of 
pointer in this cache) depends on the object size.

See enable_cpucache in mm/slab.c for 'limit' determination :

         if (cachep->objsize > 131072)
                 limit = 1;
         else if (cachep->objsize > PAGE_SIZE)
                 limit = 8;
         else if (cachep->objsize > 1024)
                 limit = 24;
         else if (cachep->objsize > 256)
                 limit = 54;
         else
                 limit = 120;



Let's take an example :

grep dentry /proc/slabinfo

dentry_cache      157113 425289    224   17    1 : tunables  120   60    8 : 
slabdata  25017  25017      0


'limit' is the number following 'tunable' : 120

On a 64 bits machines, 120*sizeof(void*) = 120*8 = 960

So for small objects (<= 256 bytes), you end with a sizeof(arracy_cache) = 
1024 bytes per cpu

If 512 CPUS : 512*1024 = 512 Kbytes + all other kmem_cache structures : (If 
you have a lot of Memory Nodes, then it can be very big too)

If you know that no more than 100 objects are used in 99% of setups, then a 
dedicated cache is overkill.

> 
> But whether its 24 or 128 bytes per cpu, that's a heavier weight
> hammer than is needed here.
> 
> Time for me to learn more about rcu.
> 
> Thanks for raising this issue.
> 

You are welcome.

Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-12-14  8:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-11 23:31 [PATCH] Cpuset: rcu optimization of page alloc hook Paul Jackson
2005-12-12  3:29 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-12  6:11   ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-12  6:21     ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-12  6:50       ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-12  8:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-12  8:54   ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-12  9:06     ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-12  9:11     ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-12  9:38       ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-12 10:02   ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-12 10:12     ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-13 15:53       ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 16:31         ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-13 17:42           ` Christoph Lameter
2005-12-13 17:56             ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-13 18:07               ` Christoph Lameter
2005-12-13 21:03               ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 21:16                 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-12-13 21:38                 ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-13 22:23                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 22:29                     ` Christoph Lameter
2005-12-14  3:54                     ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-14  4:02                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-14  4:06                         ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-14  8:06                     ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2005-12-14  8:40                       ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 20:08           ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 20:29             ` Eric Dumazet
2005-12-13 22:35               ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 21:44           ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-13 17:37         ` Christoph Lameter

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