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From: Tilman Schmidt <tilman@imap.cc>
To: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>,
	Hansjoerg Lipp <hjlipp@web.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] isdn4linux: add drivers for Siemens Gigaset ISDN DECT PABX
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:22:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43A70882.80106@imap.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1135011676.20747.3.camel@mindpipe>

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On 2005-12-19 18:01, Lee Revell wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 17:38 +0100, Tilman Schmidt wrote:
> 
>>Unfortunately these don't fit our needs, as we are not dealing with a
>>network device, but with an ISDN device.
> 
> Um, isn't that what the N in ISDN stands for?

While the ISDN is indeed called a network, devices connecting a computer
to it are nevertheless not commonly referred to as network devices.

> I guess what you mean is that although ISDN devices are obviously
> networking devices, the kernel uses a separate subsystem for ISDN?

There's more to it than that. The notion of a "network" is a rather
broad one, including such diverse phenomena as Ethernet, ISDN, TV cable
or even roads or TV stations. The notion of a "network device", on the
other hand, is a quite specific one, at least in the computer world, and
it certainly doesn't include ISDN TAs.

In fact, the operation of an ISDN device is much closer to a modem or
even an answering machine than to that prototypical network device which
is the Ethernet card. This is of course the reason why the Linux kernel
puts them in a subsystem of their own. Making them net_device-s just
wouldn't work.

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Tilman Schmidt                          E-Mail: tilman@imap.cc
Bonn, Germany
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-12-19 19:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20051212181356.GC15361@hjlipp.my-fqdn.de>
2005-12-19 16:38 ` [PATCH 0/9] isdn4linux: add drivers for Siemens Gigaset ISDN DECT PABX Tilman Schmidt
2005-12-19 17:01   ` Lee Revell
2005-12-19 17:04     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-19 19:22     ` Tilman Schmidt [this message]
2005-12-19 21:30       ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-12-19 21:53         ` Tilman Schmidt
2006-02-11 14:52 Hansjoerg Lipp
2006-02-12 10:29 ` Andrew Morton
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-12-11 18:20 Hansjoerg Lipp
2005-12-12 17:41 ` Stephen Hemminger

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