Re: userspace breakage

Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-30T15:10:28Z

Linus Torvalds wrote:

>On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Jeff V. Merkey wrote:
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>>The fact that Oracle and IBM support apps on Linux are Freeloading? Baloney!
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>Jeff, give it a rest.
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>Oracle and IBM haven't been complaining, have they? Oracle mostly does
>user-space stuff (that doesn't change), and has been pretty good about
>their Oracle-fs too - they're even actively discussing "git" issues on the
>git mailing list, and asking for help, and just generally being good
>members of the community.
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>And IBM engineers are part of the people who change internal kernel
>interfaces in order to make it work better for them.
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>Pretty much the ONLY people who ever complain about those internal kernel
>interfaces changing are the free-loaders. It's hard for them, because they
>don't want to play according to the rules. Tough. Watch me not care:
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> [ Linus sits in his chair, patently not caring ]
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>See?
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I went to New Mexico for Christmas to see my 100 year old Cherokee
Grandmother.
After reading all the junk on the internet about me people have written
about me and this
whole mess with Linux, she offered two very wise comments:

1. "When people say or write things about you, its a reflection on them,
and not you."

2. (looking at me intensely) "The cure for stupidity is silence."

So I have to say, if you feel those who write applications for Linux are
freeloaders
(I take this to mean a freeloader is someone who doesn't give you their
IP but
uses the Linux platform to sell vertical apps), then you are saying you
don't
care about supporting vendors who commercialize Linux (expect those who
give you back IP or money).

I think I got this right. Did I miss anything?

You don't have to respond. Remember the cure for stupidity is silence.

[Jeff sitting in char also not caring but trying to cure his stupidity
by being silent]

Jeff :-)

> Linus
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