From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Shrinks sizeof(files_struct) and better layout
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 12:41:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43BBB487.8030704@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200601041222.09304.ak@suse.de>
Andi Kleen a écrit :
>
> Total data of all objects together. That's because caches always get their
> own pages and cannot share them with other caches.
OK for this part.
> The overhead of the kmem_cache_t by itself is negligible.
This seems a common misconception among kernel devs (even the best ones Andi :) )
On SMP (and/or NUMA) machines : overhead of kmem_cache_t is *big*
See enable_cpucache in mm/slab.c for 'limit' determination :
if (cachep->objsize > 131072)
limit = 1;
else if (cachep->objsize > PAGE_SIZE)
limit = 8;
else if (cachep->objsize > 1024)
limit = 24;
else if (cachep->objsize > 256)
limit = 54;
else
limit = 120;
On a 64 bits machines, 120*sizeof(void*) = 120*8 = 960
So for small objects (<= 256 bytes), you end with a sizeof(array_cache) = 1024
bytes per cpu
If 16 CPUS : 16*1024 = 16 Kbytes + all other kmem_cache structures : (If you
have a lot of Memory Nodes, then it can be *very* big too).
If you know that no more than 100 objects are used in 99% of setups, then a
dedicated cache is overkill, even locking 100 pages because of extreme
fragmentation is better.
Probability that a *lot* of tasks are created at once and killed at once is
close to 0 during a machine lifetime.
Maybe we can introduce an ultra basic memory allocator for such objects
(without CPU caches, node caches), so that the memory overhead is small.
Hitting a spinlock at thread creation/deletion time is not that time critical.
Eric
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2006-01-04 0:06 ` [PATCH] Shrinks sizeof(files_struct) and better layout Eric Dumazet
2006-01-04 9:11 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-04 10:12 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-04 10:28 ` Folkert van Heusden
2006-01-04 10:45 ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-04 11:13 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-04 11:15 ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-04 11:19 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-04 11:22 ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-04 11:41 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2006-01-04 11:58 ` Andi Kleen
2006-01-06 3:01 ` David Lang
2006-01-06 6:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-06 7:26 ` David Lang
2006-01-06 7:37 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-06 8:28 ` David Lang
2006-01-04 11:45 ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-04 13:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-04 23:24 ` [2.6 patch] Define BITS_PER_BYTE Adrian Bunk
2006-01-05 7:03 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-05 15:18 ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-01-05 19:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
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