From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@scalex86.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>,
Shai Fultheim <shai@scalex86.org>,
Nippun Goel <nippung@calsoftinc.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
dipankar@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [rfc][patch] Avoid taking global tasklist_lock for single threadedprocess at getrusage()
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:59:02 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43CD4C86.5B0BA4D0@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20060116205618.GA5313@localhost.localdomain
Ravikiran G Thirumalai wrote:
>
> Sorry for the delay..
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 10:03:35PM +0300, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, I can't undestand. Could you please be more verbose ?
>
> Last thread (RUSAGE_SELF) Exiting thread
>
> [ ... ]
>
> utime = cputime_add(utime, p->signal->utime); /* use cached load above */
> stime = cputime_add(stime, p->signal->stime); /* load from memory */
Thanks for your explanation, now I see what you mean.
But don't we already discussed this issue? I think that RUSAGE_SELF
case always not 100% accurate, so it is Ok to ignore this race.
What if that thread has not exited yet? We take tasklist lock, but
this can't help, because this thread possibly updates it's ->xtime
right now on another cpu, and we have exactly same problem.
> > However, do you have any numbers or thoughts why this optimization
> > can make any _visible_ effect?
>
> We know we don't need locks there, so I do not understand why we
> should keep them. Locks are always serializing and expensive operations. I
> believe on some arches disabling on-chip interrupts is also an expensive
> operation...some arches might use hypervisor calls to do that which I guess
> will have its own overhead...so why have it when we know we don't need it?
I think it is better not to complicate the code unless we can see
some difference in practice.
That said, I don't have a strong feeling that I am right (on both
issues), so please feel free to ignore me.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-17 18:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-24 17:52 [rfc][patch] Avoid taking global tasklist_lock for single threaded process at getrusage() Oleg Nesterov
2005-12-27 20:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-12-28 12:38 ` [rfc][patch] Avoid taking global tasklist_lock for single threadedprocess " Oleg Nesterov
2005-12-28 18:33 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-12-28 22:57 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-12-30 17:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-01-04 23:16 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-05 19:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-01-06 9:46 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-06 17:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-01-06 19:46 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-03-20 18:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-03-22 22:18 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-03-23 18:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-01-06 23:52 ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-08 11:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-01-08 19:58 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-09 18:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-01-09 20:54 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-10 19:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-01-16 20:56 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-17 19:59 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2006-01-17 19:52 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-18 9:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-01-03 18:18 ` Christoph Lameter
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