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From: Avi Kivity <avi@argo.co.il>
To: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] VM: I have a dream...
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:46:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43D28189.3080407@argo.co.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200601212108.41269.a1426z@gawab.com>

Al Boldi wrote:

>A long time ago, when i was a kid, I had dream. It went like this:
>
>I am waking up in the twenty-first century and start my computer.
>After completing the boot sequence, I start top to find that my memory is 
>equal to total disk-capacity.  What's more, there is no more swap.
>Apps are executed inplace, as if already loaded.
>Physical RAM is used to cache slower storage RAM, much the same as the CPU 
>cache RAM caches slower physical RAM.
>
>  
>
I'm sure you can find a 4GB disk on ebay.

>When I woke up, I was really looking forward for the new century.
>
>Sadly, the current way of dealing with memory can at best only be described 
>as schizophrenic.  Again the reason being, that we are still running in the 
>last-century mode.
>
>Wouldn't it be nice to take advantage of todays 64bit archs and TB drives, 
>and run a more modern way of life w/o this memory/storage split personality?
>  
>
Perhaps you'd be interested in single-level store architectures, where 
no distinction is made between memory and storage. IBM uses it in one 
(or maybe more) of their systems. A particularly interesting example is 
http://www.eros-os.org.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-01-21 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-21 18:08 [RFC] VM: I have a dream Al Boldi
2006-01-21 18:42 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-21 18:46 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2006-01-23 19:52   ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-25 22:04     ` Al Boldi
2006-01-26 19:18       ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-27 16:12         ` Al Boldi
2006-01-27 19:17           ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-30 13:21             ` Al Boldi
2006-01-30 13:35               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-31 15:56                 ` Al Boldi
2006-01-31 16:34                   ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-31 23:14                     ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-31 16:34                   ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-01-31 19:23                   ` Jamie Lokier
2006-02-01  4:06                   ` Barry K. Nathan
2006-02-01  9:51                     ` Andrew Walrond
2006-02-01 17:51                       ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-02-01 18:21                         ` Andrew Walrond
2006-02-01 18:25                           ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-02-02 15:11                   ` Alan Cox
2006-02-02 18:59                     ` Al Boldi
2006-02-02 22:33                       ` Bryan Henderson
2006-02-03 14:46                       ` Alan Cox
2006-01-30 16:49               ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-26  0:03     ` Jon Smirl
2006-01-26 19:48       ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-22  8:16 ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-22 12:33 ` Robin Holt
2006-01-23 18:03   ` Al Boldi
2006-01-23 18:40     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-01-23 19:26       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-01-23 19:40         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-01-23 22:26     ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-22 19:55 ` Barry K. Nathan
2006-01-23  5:23   ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-23  5:46     ` Chase Venters
2006-01-23  8:20       ` Barry K. Nathan
2006-01-23 13:17       ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-23 20:21         ` Peter Chubb
2006-01-23 15:05     ` Ram Gupta
2006-01-23 15:26       ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-23 16:11         ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-01-23 16:50           ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-24  2:08           ` Horst von Brand
2006-01-25  6:13             ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-25  9:23             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-25  9:42               ` Lee Revell
2006-01-25 15:02                 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-25 23:24                   ` Lee Revell
2006-01-25 15:05               ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-25 15:47                 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-25 16:09                 ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-25 17:26                   ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-26 19:13                     ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-25 23:28                 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-26  1:29                   ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-26  5:01                   ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-26  5:11                     ` Lee Revell
2006-01-26 14:46                       ` Dave Kleikamp
2006-01-24  2:10           ` Horst von Brand
2006-01-25 22:27         ` Nix
2006-01-26 15:13           ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-01-26 16:23             ` Nix
2006-01-23 20:43       ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-23 22:42         ` Nikita Danilov
2006-01-24 14:36           ` Ram Gupta
2006-01-24 15:04             ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-24 20:59               ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-24 15:11             ` Nikita Danilov
2006-01-23 22:57         ` Ram Gupta
2006-01-24 10:08         ` Meelis Roos
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-02-01 13:58 Al Boldi
2006-02-01 14:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-02-02 12:26   ` Al Boldi

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