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From: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>
To: Joerg Schilling <schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>
Cc: matthias.andree@gmx.de, mrmacman_g4@mac.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de,
	bzolnier@gmail.com, acahalan@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ]
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:24:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43DE75F5.40900@cfl.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43DE495A.nail2BR211K0O@burner>

Joerg Schilling wrote:
> I am sorry to see your recent dicussion style.
>
> I was asking a question and I did get a completely useless answer as
> any person who has some basic know how Linux SCSI would know that
> doing a stat("/dev/sg*", ...) will not return anything useful.
>   

It certainly does return something useful, just not what you are looking 
for.  It does not return information that allows you to cleanly build 
your bus:device:lun view of the world, but it does return sufficient 
information to enumerate and communicate with all devices in the 
system.  Is that not sufficient to be able to implement cdrecord?  If it 
is, then the real issue here is that you want Linux to conform to the 
bus:device:lun world view, which it seems many people do not wish to do. 

Maybe it would be more constructive if you were to make a good argument 
for why the bus:device:lun view is better than /dev/*, but right now it 
seems to me that they are just two different ways of doing the same 
thing, and you prefer one way while the rest of the Linux developers 
prefer the other. 
> If people give useful answers, it makes sense to continue a discussion but it 
> turns out that "joe average" on KLML replies before thinking about the problem. 
>
> Let me ask again:
>
> 	Is there a way to get (or construct) a closed view on the namespace 
> 	for all SCSI devices?
>
>
> And IMPORTANT: don't answer unless you have a real answer for the problem.
>
> Jörg
>
>   


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-01-30 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-27 16:37 CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ] Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2006-01-29 11:01 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-29 11:15   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-29 11:28     ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 15:24     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-05 12:03       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-06 16:29         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-06 17:17           ` René Rebe
2006-02-06 18:02           ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-29 11:26   ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-29 20:41     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-29 20:50       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-29 21:28         ` Albert Cahalan
2006-01-30 16:11           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 16:31             ` Albert Cahalan
2006-01-30 16:35               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 17:08                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 17:14                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 17:30                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 17:37                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 17:49                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 20:22                         ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-01-31 10:17                         ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2006-01-30 20:24                     ` Phillip Susi [this message]
2006-01-31 10:47                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-31 11:22                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-01  0:15                         ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-01  7:45                         ` Tejun Heo
2006-02-01 16:41                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-31 23:55         ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-01 15:06           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 15:25     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 17:09       ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 17:15         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 23:26           ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-01 15:51             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-31  1:43   ` Patrick McFarland
2006-01-31  1:47     ` CD writing in future Linux try #2 David S. Miller
2006-01-31 11:13       ` Gerhard Mack
2006-01-31 11:18         ` David S. Miller
2006-02-01  0:28           ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-01 15:12             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-01 15:25               ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-01 16:32                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-02 16:24                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-02 16:29             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-02 18:37               ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-03 12:58                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 13:15                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-03 16:43                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 13:30                   ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-02-03 19:27                   ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-01  4:49           ` Albert Cahalan
2006-02-01  7:56             ` jerome lacoste
2006-02-01 16:42               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-02  0:30                 ` Kurt Wall
2006-02-01 11:33             ` Rene Herman
2006-02-01 16:21               ` Jon Agirre
2006-02-02 16:35               ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-06 23:15                 ` Peter Chubb
2006-02-07  5:00                   ` Albert Cahalan
2006-02-01 16:36             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-01 17:01               ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-02 19:17             ` Bill Davidsen
2006-01-31 16:46         ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-01-31 14:15       ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
     [not found]     ` <515e525f0601302205h4a845f36u12b946515759239a@mail.gmail.com>
2006-01-31  6:46       ` CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ] Kyle Moffett
2006-01-31  8:55     ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-01  0:25     ` Jesper Juhl
2006-02-02 16:45       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-10 17:58 ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git [was: Re: CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ]] Marc Koschewski
2006-02-10 19:19   ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-10 19:39     ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-10 20:12       ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-10 21:00         ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-10 21:00     ` Marc Koschewski
2006-02-10 21:26       ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-10 21:35         ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-02-11 15:16         ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-11 15:25           ` Marc Koschewski
2006-02-11 15:35             ` Doug McNaught
2006-02-11 15:44               ` Marc Koschewski
2006-02-10 23:23       ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git [was: Re: CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ]] Alan Cox
2006-02-10 23:41         ` Marc Koschewski
2006-02-10 23:50           ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git Doug McNaught
2006-02-10 23:56           ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git [was: Re: CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ]] Alan Cox
2006-02-11  1:03       ` hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)
2006-02-11  1:08         ` Marc Koschewski
     [not found] <5zENZ-72l-47@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <5AiBB-5AH-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <5AiV2-62l-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <5AJ9s-2go-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <5AKHI-4IV-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <5AKRr-4V5-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-01-31  1:01           ` CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ] Robert Hancock

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