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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vserver@list.linux-vserver.org,
	Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <ssouhlal@FreeBSD.org>,
	Hubertus Franke <frankeh@watson.ibm.com>,
	Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>,
	Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] pid: Implement task references.
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:32:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43DE8604.1060109@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1bqxt5ts3.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

Eric W. Biederman a écrit :
> Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com> writes:
> 
>> Greg KH a écrit :
>>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 06:19:35AM +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>>>> Example of improvement in kref_put() :
>>>>
>>>> [PATCH] kref : Avoid an atomic operation in kref_put() when the last
>>>> reference is dropped. On most platforms, atomic_read() is a plan read of the
>>>> counter and involves no atomic at all.
>>> No, we wat to decrement and test at the same time, to protect against
>>> any race where someone is incrementing right when we are dropping the
>>> last reference.
>> Sorry ? Me confused !
> 
> Largely I think you have the right of it, that the optimization is
> correct.  My biggest complaint is that the common case is going to be
> several references to the data structure.  Releasing the references
> will always be slow.  To do the read you need to get the value into
> the cache line.
> 
> So it looks to me like you are optimizing the wrong case and
> bloating the icache with unnecessary code.

This function is not inlined.

Adding a test and a branch is a matter of 7 bytes.

  'Bloating the icache' is a litle bit off :)

Avoiding an atomic is important. This is already done elsewhere in the kernel, 
in a inlined function with *many* call sites :

(See kfree_skb() in include/linux//skbuff.h )

/*
  * If users == 1, we are the only owner and are can avoid redundant
  * atomic change.
  */

/**
  *      kfree_skb - free an sk_buff
  *      @skb: buffer to free
  *
  *      Drop a reference to the buffer and free it if the usage count has
  *      hit zero.
  */
static inline void kfree_skb(struct sk_buff *skb)
{
         if (likely(atomic_read(&skb->users) == 1))
                 smp_rmb();
         else if (likely(!atomic_dec_and_test(&skb->users)))
                 return;
         __kfree_skb(skb);
}


This is a valid optimization : an atomic_dec_and_test() is very expensive.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-30 21:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-29  7:19 [RFC][PATCH 0/5] Task references Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-29  7:22 ` [PATCH 1/5] pid: Implement task references Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-29  7:24   ` [PATCH 2/5] pid: Add macros for interating through tasks by type Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-29  7:28     ` [PATCH 3/5] pid: Implement kill_tref Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-29  7:33       ` [PATCH 4/5] vt: Update spawnpid to use a task_ref Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-29  7:35         ` [PATCH 5/5] file: Modify struct fown_struct to contain a tref Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-29  8:43           ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-01-29  9:18             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-30 10:51         ` [PATCH 4/5] vt: Update spawnpid to use a task_ref Pavel Machek
2006-01-30 20:39           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-30 21:05             ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-30 21:15               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-29  8:46   ` [PATCH 1/5] pid: Implement task references Suleiman Souhlal
2006-01-29 19:05   ` Greg KH
2006-01-29 21:58     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-30  4:51       ` Greg KH
2006-01-30  5:19         ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-30  5:35           ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-30  5:46             ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-30  6:46               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-30 18:43           ` Greg KH
2006-01-30 19:58             ` Eric Dumazet
2006-01-30 20:45               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-30 21:32                 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2006-01-30 21:51                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-30 20:13         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-31  6:58           ` Greg KH
2006-01-31 16:04             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-01-29  8:05 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/5] Task references Kyle Moffett
2006-02-06  8:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 14:36   ` Serge E. Hallyn

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