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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>
Cc: schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de, bzolnier@gmail.com,
	matthias.andree@gmx.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	acahalan@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CD writing in future Linux try #2
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:37:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43E25171.7040203@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0602021724560.13212@yvahk01.tjqt.qr>

Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>>>Someone remind me why the whole world is a prisoner to Joerg's cd
>>>burning program?
>>>
>>>Anybody can write their own, and if Joerg is a pain to work with that
>>>is a double extra incentive for this other implementation to be
>>>written.
>>>
>>>In fact I'm very surprised this hasn't happened already.
>>
>>Because Jorg has maintained the program for a decade, has found and supported
>>new vendors and devices, he seems to get new hardware sooner than most, and
>>many programs and scripts use his program as an output stage.
>>
> 
> 
> Because cdrecord (and recently -prodvd) work. And they are "somewhat free".
> There are not much dvd-dl writing programs around that do it without crashing
> freezing or foobaring the disc. You are right, I could go to Nero or Nero4Linux
> ("the best of burning from Windows now for Linux"), but I don't.
> 
> 
>>he thinks his
>>DVD-pro thing will make money but the last time I checked he didn't tke credit
>>cards or paypal
> 
> 
> The last time I checked, prodvd was free for non-commercial purposes and - as
> far as I can *guess* - is free for commercial purposes as long as they give
> notice that it is being used. Unless commercials disguise using the
> non-commercial key.

Free, but not open source, and that's an issue with a mission critical 
application. For home use it doesn't matter, for business use it really 
does. Only one person has the source, and he could be hit by a bus like 
anyone else. Or if he uses as much tact in person as he does in email, 
he might become unavailable at any moment.

I wasn't complaining about the price of ProDVD, just noting that when it 
first came out I tried to buy a license and found that Paypal wasn't an 
option.

-- 
    -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com)
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
  last possible moment - but no longer"  -me

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-02 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-27 16:37 CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ] Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2006-01-29 11:01 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-29 11:15   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-29 11:28     ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 15:24     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-05 12:03       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-06 16:29         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-06 17:17           ` René Rebe
2006-02-06 18:02           ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-29 11:26   ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-29 20:41     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-29 20:50       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-29 21:28         ` Albert Cahalan
2006-01-30 16:11           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 16:31             ` Albert Cahalan
2006-01-30 16:35               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 17:08                 ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 17:14                   ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 17:30                     ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 17:37                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 17:49                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 20:22                         ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-01-31 10:17                         ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2006-01-30 20:24                     ` Phillip Susi
2006-01-31 10:47                       ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-31 11:22                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-01  0:15                         ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-01  7:45                         ` Tejun Heo
2006-02-01 16:41                           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-31 23:55         ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-01 15:06           ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 15:25     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 17:09       ` Matthias Andree
2006-01-30 17:15         ` Joerg Schilling
2006-01-30 23:26           ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-01 15:51             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-31  1:43   ` Patrick McFarland
2006-01-31  1:47     ` CD writing in future Linux try #2 David S. Miller
2006-01-31 11:13       ` Gerhard Mack
2006-01-31 11:18         ` David S. Miller
2006-02-01  0:28           ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-01 15:12             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-01 15:25               ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-01 16:32                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-02 16:24                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-02 16:29             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-02 18:37               ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2006-02-03 12:58                 ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 13:15                   ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-03 16:43                     ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-03 13:30                   ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-02-03 19:27                   ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-01  4:49           ` Albert Cahalan
2006-02-01  7:56             ` jerome lacoste
2006-02-01 16:42               ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-02  0:30                 ` Kurt Wall
2006-02-01 11:33             ` Rene Herman
2006-02-01 16:21               ` Jon Agirre
2006-02-02 16:35               ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-06 23:15                 ` Peter Chubb
2006-02-07  5:00                   ` Albert Cahalan
2006-02-01 16:36             ` Joerg Schilling
2006-02-01 17:01               ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-02 19:17             ` Bill Davidsen
2006-01-31 16:46         ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-01-31 14:15       ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
     [not found]     ` <515e525f0601302205h4a845f36u12b946515759239a@mail.gmail.com>
2006-01-31  6:46       ` CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ] Kyle Moffett
2006-01-31  8:55     ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-01  0:25     ` Jesper Juhl
2006-02-02 16:45       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-10 17:58 ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git [was: Re: CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ]] Marc Koschewski
2006-02-10 19:19   ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-10 19:39     ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-10 20:12       ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-10 21:00         ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-10 21:00     ` Marc Koschewski
2006-02-10 21:26       ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-10 21:35         ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-02-11 15:16         ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-11 15:25           ` Marc Koschewski
2006-02-11 15:35             ` Doug McNaught
2006-02-11 15:44               ` Marc Koschewski
2006-02-10 23:23       ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git [was: Re: CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ]] Alan Cox
2006-02-10 23:41         ` Marc Koschewski
2006-02-10 23:50           ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git Doug McNaught
2006-02-10 23:56           ` CD-blanking leads to machine freeze with current -git [was: Re: CD writing in future Linux try #2 [ was: Re: CD writing in future Linux (stirring up a hornets' nest) ]] Alan Cox
2006-02-11  1:03       ` hackmiester (Hunter Fuller)
2006-02-11  1:08         ` Marc Koschewski

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