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From: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	frankeh@watson.ibm.com, clg@fr.ibm.com, haveblue@us.ibm.com,
	greg@kroah.com, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, serue@us.ibm.com,
	arjan@infradead.org, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	Andrey Savochkin <saw@sawoct.com>,
	devel@openvz.org, Pavel Emelianov <xemul@sw.ru>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup
Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 20:22:34 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43E3915A.2080000@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0602030905380.4630@g5.osdl.org>

Linus,

Not a problem and fully agree with you.
Just had to better review patch before sending.

Do you have any other ideas/comments on this?
I will send additional IPC/filesystems virtualization patches a bit later.

Kirill

> On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Kirill Korotaev wrote:
>> This patch introduces some abstract container/VPS kernel structure and tiny
>> amount of operations on it.
> 
> Please don't use things like "vps_t".
> 
> It's a _mistake_ to use typedef for structures and pointers. When you see 
> a
> 
> 	vps_t a;
> 
> in the source, what does it mean?
> 
> In contrast, if it says
> 
> 	struct virtual_container *a;
> 
> you can actually tell what "a" is. 
> 
> Lots of people think that typedefs "help readability". Not so. They are 
> useful only for 
> 
>  (a) totally opaque objects (where the typedef is actively used to _hide_
>      what the object is). 
> 
>      Example: "pte_t" etc opaque objects that you can only access using 
>      the proper accessor functions.
> 
>      NOTE! Opaqueness and "accessor functions" are not good in themselves. 
>      The reason we have them for things like pte_t etc is that there 
>      really is absolutely _zero_ portably accessible information there.
> 
>  (b) Clear integer types, where the abstraction _helps_ avoid confusion 
>      whether it is "int" or "long".
> 
>      u8/u16/u32 are perfectly fine typedefs. 
> 
>      NOTE! Again - there needs to be a _reason_ for this. If something is 
>      "unsigned long", then there's no reason to do
> 
> 	typedef long myflags_t;
> 
>      but if there is a clear reason for why it under certain circumstances 
>      might be an "unsigned int" and under other configurations might be 
>      "unsigned long", then by all means go ahead and use a typedef.
> 
>  (c) when you use sparse to literally create a _new_ type for 
>      type-checking.
> 
> Maybe there are other cases too, but the rule should basically be to NEVER 
> EVER use a typedef unless you can clearly match one of those rules.
> 
> In general, a pointer, or a struct that has elements that can reasonably 
> be directly accessed should _never_ be a typedef.
> 
> 		Linus
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-03 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-03 16:58 [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] Virtualization/containers: UIDs Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:06 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] Virtualization/containers: UTSNAME Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  8:21   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06  8:53     ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:15 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Linus Torvalds
2006-02-03 17:22   ` Kirill Korotaev [this message]
2006-02-03 17:49     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-03 18:34       ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-03 18:55         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-02-03 19:18         ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 19:56         ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 20:19         ` Greg KH
2006-02-03 20:34           ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-05 15:11             ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:39               ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-06  9:08                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:31               ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-07 12:28                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:10           ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:05         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 16:35           ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-06 16:51             ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 16:56           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-06 17:21             ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07  0:28             ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-07 12:21               ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 22:21                 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-20 11:56                   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 18:36       ` Summary: PID virtualization , Containers, Migration Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 18:36       ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Rik van Riel
2006-02-05 14:52       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  8:39       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06  9:00         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  9:19           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 16:37             ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-06 18:37               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:32                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:40                 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-07  1:57                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 21:54                 ` swsusp done by migration (was Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup) Pavel Machek
2006-02-09 18:20                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-10  0:21                     ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-10  4:31                       ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-10  6:23                         ` [Devel] " Vasily Averin
2006-02-11  2:38                           ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-11 17:29                             ` Vasily Averin
2006-02-12 23:29                               ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-10  8:29                         ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-10  5:40                 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Nigel Cunningham
2006-02-10  6:01                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 10:16   ` Jes Sorensen
2006-02-05 20:13 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-06  9:04   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  0:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-02-06  9:03   ` [Devel] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  8:31 ` Eric W. Biederman

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