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From: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	frankeh@watson.ibm.com, clg@fr.ibm.com, greg@kroah.com,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, serue@us.ibm.com, arjan@infradead.org,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	Andrey Savochkin <saw@sawoct.com>,
	devel@openvz.org, Pavel Emelianov <xemul@sw.ru>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 19:51:43 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43E77E9F.2060803@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1139243734.6189.69.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hello,

> I worry that using something like "vps" obfuscates the real meaning a
> bit.  The reason that "owner_vps" doesn't sound weird is that people, by
> default, usually won't understand what a "vps" is.
container or context sounds the same :) it is impossible to feel this 
notion naturally without getting into details. IMHO.

> (if you like acronyms a lot, I'm sure I can find a job for you at IBM or
> in the US military :)
We can talk about it separetely :)))

>>Please, also note, in OpenVZ we have 2 pointers on task_struct:
>>One is owner of a task (owner_env), 2nd is a current context (exec_env). 
>>exec_env pointer is used to avoid adding of additional argument to all 
>>the functions where current context is required.
> 
> That makes sense.  However, are there many cases in the kernel where a
> task ends up doing something temporary like this:
> 
> 	tsk->exec_vnc = bar;
> 	do_something_here(task);
> 	tsk->exec_vnc = foo;
> 
> If that's the case very often, we probably want to change the APIs, just
> to make the common action explicit.  If it never happens, or is a
> rarity, I think it should be just fine.
It is quite rare. In IRQ, softIRQ, TCP/IP stack and some timers. Not much.

>>VPS ID is passed to/from user space APIs and when you have a cluster 
>>with different archs and VPSs it is better to have something in common 
>>for managing this.
> I guess it does keep you from running into issues with mixing 32 and
> 64-bit processes.  But, haven't we solved those problems already?  Is it
> just a pain?
VPSs can live in clusters. It is good to have one VPS ID space.

Kirill



  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-06 16:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-03 16:58 [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] Virtualization/containers: UIDs Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:06 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] Virtualization/containers: UTSNAME Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  8:21   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06  8:53     ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:15 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Linus Torvalds
2006-02-03 17:22   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:49     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-03 18:34       ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-03 18:55         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-02-03 19:18         ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 19:56         ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 20:19         ` Greg KH
2006-02-03 20:34           ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-05 15:11             ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:39               ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-06  9:08                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:31               ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-07 12:28                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:10           ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:05         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 16:35           ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-06 16:51             ` Kirill Korotaev [this message]
2006-02-06 16:56           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-06 17:21             ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07  0:28             ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-07 12:21               ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 22:21                 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-20 11:56                   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 18:36       ` Summary: PID virtualization , Containers, Migration Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 18:36       ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Rik van Riel
2006-02-05 14:52       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  8:39       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06  9:00         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  9:19           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 16:37             ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-06 18:37               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:32                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:40                 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-07  1:57                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 21:54                 ` swsusp done by migration (was Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup) Pavel Machek
2006-02-09 18:20                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-10  0:21                     ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-10  4:31                       ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-10  6:23                         ` [Devel] " Vasily Averin
2006-02-11  2:38                           ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-11 17:29                             ` Vasily Averin
2006-02-12 23:29                               ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-10  8:29                         ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-10  5:40                 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Nigel Cunningham
2006-02-10  6:01                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 10:16   ` Jes Sorensen
2006-02-05 20:13 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-06  9:04   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  0:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-02-06  9:03   ` [Devel] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  8:31 ` Eric W. Biederman

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