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From: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Sam Vilain <sam@vilain.net>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Hubertus Franke <frankeh@watson.ibm.com>,
	clg@fr.ibm.com, haveblue@us.ibm.com, greg@kroah.com,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, serue@us.ibm.com, arjan@infradead.org,
	kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru, saw@sawoct.com, devel@openvz.org,
	Dmitry Mishin <dim@sw.ru>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] Virtualization/containers: introduction
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:18:21 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43E8C84D.6020107@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1oe1jfa5n.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

>>I can't think of any real use cases where you would specifically want A)
>>without B).

> You misrepresent my approach.  
[...]

> Second I am not trying to just implement a form of virtualizing PIDs.
> Heck I don't intend to virtualize anything.  The kernel has already
> virtualized everything I require.  I want to implement multiple
> instances of the current kernel global namespaces.  All I want is
> to be able to use the same name twice in user space and not have
> a conflict.
if you want not virtualize anything, what is this discussion about? :)
can you provide an URL to your sources? you makes lot's of statements 
about that your network virtualization solution is better/more complete, 
so I'd like to see your solution in whole rather than only words.
Probably this will help.

> I disagree with a struct container simply because I do not see what
> value it happens to bring to the table.  I have yet to see a problem
> that it solves that I have not solved yet.
again, source would help to understand your solution and problem you 
solved and not solved yet.

> In addition I depart from vserver and other implementations in another
> regard.  It is my impression a lot of their work has been done so
> those projects are maintainable outside of the kernel, which makes
> sense as that is where those code bases live.  But I don't think that
> gives the best solution for an in kernel implementation, which is
> what we are implementing.
These soltuions are in kernel implementations actually.


Kirill


  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-07 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-06 21:57 [PATCH 1/4] Virtualization/containers: introduction Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 2/4] Virtualization/containers: CONFIG_CONTAINER Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:17 ` [PATCH 3/4] Virtualization/containers: UID hash Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:22 ` [PATCH 4/4] Virtualization/containers: uts name Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 23:00 ` [PATCH 1/4] Virtualization/containers: introduction Dave Hansen
2006-02-07 12:24   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07  3:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07  3:40   ` Rik van Riel
2006-02-07  6:30     ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-07 11:51       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 14:31         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 15:42       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 16:18         ` Kirill Korotaev [this message]
2006-02-07 17:20           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 22:43         ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-07 16:57       ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-07 20:19         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-07 20:46           ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-07 22:00             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 22:19               ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-07 22:06             ` The issues for agreeing on a virtualization/namespaces implementation Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 23:35               ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-08  0:43                 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-02-08  2:49                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08  3:36                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-08  3:52                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08  4:37                         ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-08  4:46                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 19:24                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-02-08  5:23                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 14:40                   ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-08 15:17                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-08 15:35                       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-08 15:57                         ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-08 19:02                           ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-08 16:48                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 17:46                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 18:03                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-08 18:31                       ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-08 20:21                       ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-08 21:22                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-08 22:28                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-20 12:11                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 12:41                   ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-20 14:26                     ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 15:16                       ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-08  4:56               ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-08 14:38                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-08 14:51                   ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-09  4:45               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-09  5:41                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-09 22:25               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 22:58         ` [PATCH 1/4] Virtualization/containers: introduction Sam Vilain
2006-02-07 23:18           ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-08  5:03             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 14:13               ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-08 15:44                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-08 16:39                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08  2:08           ` Kevin Fox
2006-02-08  1:16             ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-08  4:21               ` Paul Jackson
2006-02-08 15:36         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-08 17:16           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 20:43           ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-08 21:04             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 12:14   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 14:06     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-07 14:52       ` Rik van Riel
2006-02-07 15:13         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-09  0:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-09  2:18   ` Jeff Dike
2006-02-09  3:16     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-09 14:28     ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-09 15:40       ` Jeff Dike
2006-02-09 15:49         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-09 17:50           ` Jeff Dike
2006-02-09 16:38     ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-09 17:48       ` Jeff Dike
2006-02-09 22:09         ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-09 21:56   ` Eric W. Biederman

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