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From: Vasily Averin <vvs@sw.ru>
To: Sam Vilain <sam@vilain.net>
Cc: devel@openvz.org, Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>,
	frankeh@watson.ibm.com, Andrey Savochkin <saw@sawoct.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	greg@kroah.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	serue@us.ibm.com, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, arjan@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [Devel] Re: swsusp done by migration (was Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 20:29:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43EE1EDE.6040809@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1139625499.12123.41.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Sam Vilain wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 09:23 +0300, Vasily Averin wrote:
>>>Yeah.  If you fudged/virtualised /dev/random, the system clock, etc you
>>>could even have Tandem-style transparent High Availability.
>>></more wishful thinking>
>>Could you please explain, why you want to virtualize /dev/random?
> 
> When checkpointing it is important to preserve all state.  If you are
> doing transparent highly available computing, you need to make sure all
> system calls get the same answers in the clones.  So you would need to
> virtualise the entropy pool.

>From my point of view it is important to preserve only all the determinated state.

Ok, lets we've checkpointed and saved current entropy pool. But we have not any
guarantee that pool will be in the same state at the moment of first access to
it after wakeuping. Because a new entropy can change it unpredictable.

Am I right?

Thank you,
	Vasily Averin

Virtuozzo Linux kernel Team

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-11 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-03 16:58 [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:03 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] Virtualization/containers: UIDs Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:06 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] Virtualization/containers: UTSNAME Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  8:21   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06  8:53     ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:15 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Linus Torvalds
2006-02-03 17:22   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 17:49     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-03 18:34       ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-03 18:55         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-02-03 19:18         ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 19:56         ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 20:19         ` Greg KH
2006-02-03 20:34           ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-05 15:11             ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:39               ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-06  9:08                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:31               ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-07 12:28                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:10           ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-05 15:05         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 16:35           ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-06 16:51             ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 16:56           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-06 17:21             ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07  0:28             ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-07 12:21               ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-07 22:21                 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-20 11:56                   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-03 18:36       ` Summary: PID virtualization , Containers, Migration Hubertus Franke
2006-02-03 18:36       ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Rik van Riel
2006-02-05 14:52       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  8:39       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06  9:00         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  9:19           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 16:37             ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-06 18:37               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 19:32                 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06 22:40                 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-02-07  1:57                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-08 21:54                 ` swsusp done by migration (was Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup) Pavel Machek
2006-02-09 18:20                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-10  0:21                     ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-10  4:31                       ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-10  6:23                         ` [Devel] " Vasily Averin
2006-02-11  2:38                           ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-11 17:29                             ` Vasily Averin [this message]
2006-02-12 23:29                               ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-10  8:29                         ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-10  5:40                 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Virtualization/containers: startup Nigel Cunningham
2006-02-10  6:01                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-06 10:16   ` Jes Sorensen
2006-02-05 20:13 ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-06  9:04   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  0:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-02-06  9:03   ` [Devel] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-06  8:31 ` Eric W. Biederman

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