From: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Flames over -- Re: Which is simpler?
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 01:06:04 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43F80ACC.20704@cfl.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200602181251.09865.david-b@pacbell.net>
David Brownell wrote:
>
> Hardware is CORRECTLY reporting electrical disconnects,
> but Philip is wanting Linux to ignore those reports.
>
>
No, not ignore, just realize that an electrical disconnection does not
necessarily mean that the volume can no longer be accessed.
>
> No patch possible. Reading the other messages in that
> thread, Philip is advocating Linux ignore the USB spec.
> (Which is what _he_ appears to have been doing...)
>
Non sequitur. The USB spec does not say the kernel must force unmount
the drive.
> What he has to do is more than submit a patch. He first
> needs to lobby the USB-IF to change the USB spec, and
> get every peripheral vendor to stop shipping USB devices
> and instead switch over to "Philip-USB". Then get all
> the billions of USB peripherals to go into the recycle
> bin and be replaced with products conforming to his
> new variant. It all seems highly unlikely. ;)
>
>
> But yes, you're right ... if he's serious about
> changing all that stuff, he also needs stop being a
> member of the "never submitted a USB patch" club.
> Ideally, starting with small things.
>
You're moving off into left field.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-19 6:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-13 19:16 Flames over -- Re: Which is simpler? David Brownell
2006-02-13 20:08 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 3:10 ` David Brownell
2006-02-14 6:05 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 17:04 ` David Brownell
2006-02-15 23:43 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-18 20:51 ` David Brownell
2006-02-19 6:06 ` Phillip Susi [this message]
2006-02-20 5:50 ` David Brownell
2006-02-20 16:07 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-20 16:51 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-20 18:20 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-20 18:44 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-20 21:45 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-21 16:19 ` David Brownell
2006-02-21 18:30 ` Phillip Susi
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-02-12 16:57 Alan Stern
2006-02-13 0:51 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13 2:19 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13 3:52 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13 5:43 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-13 16:40 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13 16:31 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13 17:14 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13 20:04 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13 20:38 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-13 21:24 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13 22:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-02-14 19:26 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-14 20:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-02-14 21:08 ` Lee Revell
2006-02-15 15:56 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-13 22:51 ` J. Bruce Fields
2006-02-13 23:47 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 0:50 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14 2:09 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 4:09 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14 4:28 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-14 5:11 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14 15:33 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-14 6:27 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 16:23 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14 18:39 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 19:55 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-14 21:13 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 23:32 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-02-15 3:08 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-14 19:14 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-14 19:37 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-17 21:04 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-18 16:34 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-18 17:29 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-19 5:52 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19 9:02 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-19 16:35 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19 16:41 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19 19:17 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19 19:43 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-20 0:56 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-20 1:01 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-20 1:26 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-02-20 4:04 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19 20:16 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-02-18 21:04 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19 0:02 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19 6:02 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19 6:32 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19 16:39 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19 16:54 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19 20:02 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19 20:44 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-02-19 21:02 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-20 6:55 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-02-20 7:29 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-20 7:57 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-14 14:15 ` hackmiester / Hunter Fuller
2006-02-15 23:51 ` Pavel Machek
2006-02-13 2:25 ` Kyle Moffett
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