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From: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
To: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vserver@list.linux-vserver.org,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <ssouhlal@FreeBSD.org>,
	Hubertus Franke <frankeh@watson.ibm.com>,
	Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>,
	Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>, Greg <gkurz@fr.ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	Andrey Savochkin <saw@sawoct.com>,
	Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
	Jes Sorensen <jes@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: (pspace,pid) vs true pid virtualization
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:10:14 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43F99586.9050308@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1140111692.21383.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>

>>this is mandatory, as it is required to kill any process
>>from the host (admin) context, without entering the pid
>>space (which would lead to all kind of security issues) 
> 
> 
> Giving admin processes the ability to enter pid spaces seems like it
> solves an entire class of problems, right?.  Could you explain a bit
> what kinds of security issues it introduces?
Enter is not always possible.
For example when you have exhausted your resources in VPS.
(e.g. hit process limit inside).
And you can't make enter without resource limitations, since it will be 
a security hole then.

Kirill


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-02-20 10:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-15 14:59 (pspace,pid) vs true pid virtualization Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-15 22:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-16 14:29   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-16 16:37     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-16 17:53       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-16 18:19         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-16 18:44           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-16 18:52             ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-17 10:57               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-17 11:44                 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-17 12:16                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-17 12:44                     ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-17 13:15                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-17 13:39                       ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-17 21:40                         ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-17 11:04             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-20 10:06       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-17  3:35     ` Hubertus Franke
2006-02-17 14:53       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-20  9:37     ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 12:47       ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-20 14:34         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 15:27           ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-16 14:30   ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-16 15:37     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-16 17:13       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-16 17:57         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-20  9:54       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 18:19         ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-16 16:59     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-16 17:41     ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-16 19:12       ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-16 19:38         ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-16 21:11           ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-20 10:10       ` Kirill Korotaev [this message]
2006-02-20  9:50     ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 13:00       ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-20 14:44         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 15:36           ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-20  9:13   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 18:07     ` Dave Hansen
2006-02-15 23:24 ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-16  5:50   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-20  9:17   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-02-20 20:01     ` Sam Vilain

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