From: Tilman Schmidt <tilman@imap.cc>
To: "Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@xenotime.net>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, hjlipp@web.de,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gregkh@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] reduce syslog clutter (take 2)
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:43:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44107739.9070204@imap.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060309083412.95e145ea.rdunlap@xenotime.net>
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On 09.03.2006 17:34, Randy.Dunlap wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 03:02:57 -0800 Andrew Morton wrote:
>
>>Tilman Schmidt <tilman@imap.cc> wrote:
>>
>>>The current versions of the err() / info() / warn() syslog macros
>>> insert __FILE__ at the beginning of the message, which expands to
>>> the complete path name of the source file within the kernel tree.
>>>
>>> With the following patch, when used in a module, they'll insert the
>>> module name instead, which is significantly shorter and also tends to
>>> be more useful to users trying to make sense of a particular message.
>>
>>Personally, I prefer to see filenames. Or function names. Sometimes it's
>>rather unobvious how to go from module name to filename, due to a) multiple
>>.o files being linked together, b) subsystems which insist on #including .c
>>files in .c files (usb...) and c) the module system's cute habit of
>>replacing underscores with dashes in module names.
>
> True, just using module->name or whatever means that we would
> (often?) have to do a lookup to see what source file it was in.
That would be a valid point for debugging messages. However, we are
talking about messages to users here. I maintain that the additional 20
characters in:
Feb 21 00:12:13 gx110 kernel: drivers/isdn/gigaset/i4l.c:
ISDN_CMD_SETL3: invalid protocol 42
as opposed to:
Feb 21 00:12:13 gx110 kernel: gigaset: ISDN_CMD_SETL3: invalid protocol 42
do not provide any useful information for that clientele. They just push
the actual interesting information farther to the right, in this case
even causing a line wrap.
If I want to include the function name in the message I can (and indeed
I quite frequently do), but this only makes the clutter worse if the
macros force the source path on me regardless.
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Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-08 22:54 [PATCH] reduce syslog clutter (take 2) Tilman Schmidt
2006-03-09 5:47 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-03-09 10:15 ` Tilman Schmidt
2006-03-09 11:02 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-09 16:34 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-03-09 18:43 ` Tilman Schmidt [this message]
[not found] ` <9a8748490603091058l75aacacsfc5fdba3981fb074@mail.gmail.com>
2006-03-09 19:17 ` Tilman Schmidt
2006-03-09 21:03 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-09 21:18 ` Pete Zaitcev
2006-03-09 22:42 ` Greg KH
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