From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Karl MacMillan <kmacmill@redhat.com>,
jmorris@namei.org, chrisw@sous-sol.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, aviro@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Security issues with local filesystem caching
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:34:54 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4417.1162395294@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1162387735.32614.184.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil>
Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov> wrote:
> > (c) A security label that defines the context under which the module
> > operates when accessing the cache. This allows the module, when
> > accessing the cache, to only operate within the bounds of the
> > cache.
>
> Well, only if the module is well-behaved in the first place, since a
> kernel module can naturally bypass SELinux at will. What drives this
> approach vs. exempting the module from SELinux checking via a task flag
> that it raises and lowers around the access (vs. setting and resetting
> the sid around the access to the per-cache module context)?
Christoph objected very strongly to my bypassing of vfs_mkdir() and co, and Al
wasn't to happy about it either. This should allow me, for example, to call
vfs_mkdir() rather than calling the inode op directly as the reason I wasn't
was that I was having to avoid the security checks it made.
Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov> wrote:
> > (*) The module will obtain label (c) by reading label (b) from the
> > cachefilesd process when it opens the cachefiles control chardev and
> > then passing it through security_change_sid() to ask the security
> > policy to for label (c).
>
> Do you mean security_transition_sid()? security_change_sid() doesn't
> seem suited to that purpose
That's what Karl said to use.
> What would you use as the target SID and class?
I've no idea. I tried to find out how to use this function from Karl, but he
said I should ask on the list.
> > (3) current->security->sid will be set to label (c) so that
> > vfs_mkdir(), vfs_create() and lookup ops will check for the
> > correct labels.
>
> I think you would want this to be a new ->fssid field instead, and
> adjust SELinux to use it if set for permission checking (which could
> also be leveraged by NFS later).
I could do that. Does it actually gain anything? Or are there good reasons
for not altering current->security->sid? For instance, does that affect the
label seen on /proc/pid/ files?
> Or just use a task flag to disable checking on the module internal accesses.
I could do that too.
> > Point (3) shouldn't cause a cross-thread race as it would appear that
> > the security label can only be changed on single-threaded processes.
> > Attempts to do so on multi-threaded processes are rejected.
>
> I don't quite follow this.
Sorry, I meant that a process can only change its own security label if it's a
single-threaded process. A kernel module can, of course, change the security
label at any time.
> But mutating ->sid could yield unfortunate behavior if e.g. another process
> happens to be sending that task a signal at the same time, so if you go this
> route, you want a ->fssid.
Okay... that seems like a good reason to do use the ->fssid approach. How do I
tell if ->fssid is set? Is zero usable as 'unset'? Alternatively, would it be
reasonable to have ->fssid track ->sid when the latter changes?
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-01 15:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-25 10:14 Security issues with local filesystem caching David Howells
2006-10-25 16:52 ` Nate Diller
2006-10-25 16:48 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-10-25 17:21 ` David Howells
2006-10-25 17:42 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-10-25 18:15 ` David Howells
2006-10-25 20:21 ` Josef Sipek
2006-10-25 20:28 ` Josef Sipek
2006-10-26 9:56 ` David Howells
2006-10-27 15:54 ` Josef Sipek
2006-10-25 21:12 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-10-26 10:40 ` David Howells
2006-10-26 12:51 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-10-26 16:04 ` David Howells
2006-10-26 16:34 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-10-26 17:09 ` David Howells
2006-10-26 17:45 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-10-26 22:53 ` David Howells
2006-10-27 14:48 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-10-27 15:42 ` David Howells
2006-10-27 16:10 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-10-27 16:25 ` David Howells
2006-10-27 17:09 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-10-27 17:34 ` David Howells
2006-10-27 14:41 ` David Howells
2006-10-25 23:37 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-26 0:32 ` Al Viro
2006-10-26 10:45 ` David Howells
2006-10-26 10:54 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-26 9:14 ` Jan Dittmer
2006-10-26 10:55 ` David Howells
2006-10-26 11:52 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-31 21:26 ` David Howells
2006-11-01 13:28 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-11-01 15:34 ` David Howells [this message]
2006-11-01 15:58 ` Karl MacMillan
2006-11-01 17:45 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-11-02 16:29 ` Karl MacMillan
2006-11-02 18:04 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-11-01 17:30 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-11-02 17:16 ` David Howells
2006-11-02 19:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-11-02 20:38 ` David Howells
2006-11-02 21:24 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-11-03 10:27 ` David Howells
2006-11-03 13:41 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-11-03 15:23 ` David Howells
2006-11-03 17:30 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-11-14 19:22 ` David Howells
2006-11-15 14:05 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-11-15 15:28 ` David Howells
2006-11-15 16:41 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-11-15 18:17 ` David Howells
2006-11-03 15:33 ` David Howells
2006-11-02 20:33 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-11-02 21:05 ` David Howells
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