From: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: VMI Interface Proposal Documentation for I386, Part 4
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:29:34 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4419845E.8060904@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1142522308.13318.29.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Alan Cox wrote:
> On Iau, 2006-03-16 at 00:37 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
>
>> This code used to work when ran as root:
>>
>
> Unless it page faulted, or was on SMP, or ....
>
Actually, quite interestingly, I believe you can take page faults in
this scenario - you might end up getting rescheduled and lose the effect
disabling interrupts, but I think the kernel lives on just fine - as
long as it doesn't BUG_ON about this. On SMP, clearly you can't
disabled IRQs on all processors with it. But I really think the point
is to try to eliminate IRQs on a single processor during some critical
timing sensitive region. One thing you definitely can't do safely is
make sysenter based syscalls off the vsyscall page - you will notice
that you always come back with interrupts enabled.
I just really don't think that is a good idea to do in userspace, when
writing a kernel module to accomplish this safely is actually really
quite easy. I would argue that the various CMOS timer update utilities
in userspace that do this same thing, really should be moved into the
kernel as fast as possible - they could race against other CPUs in
kernel mode that are doing the same thing, and there is no locking
discipline here whatsoever.
>
>> I'm not sure how will X like this.
>>
>
> X has not used this ability for many years.
>
Good to know. I thought some piece of xinit still used it to do
dot-clock probing - but I could be wrong. We really don't care about
getting accurate information here, since the dot-clocks don't actually
exist in a VM. We simulate virtual SVGA hardware instead of passing
through any installed card.
Zach
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-03-16 15:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-13 19:55 VMI Interface Proposal Documentation for I386, Part 4 Zachary Amsden
2006-03-15 23:37 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-16 7:00 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-03-16 15:18 ` Alan Cox
2006-03-16 15:29 ` Zachary Amsden [this message]
2006-03-16 18:40 ` Alan Cox
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