Re: sata_promise does not see hardware RAID arrays on Fasttrak TX4000

Re: sata_promise does not see hardware RAID arrays on Fasttrak TX4000

[Jeff Garzik]

Gordon Atwood wrote:
> Ok, I've searched thru dozens of webpages and done the RTFM thing.  If its
> really obvious, sorry, I still missed it.

http://linux-ata.org/faq-sata-raid.html#tx2

http://linux-ata.org/faq-sata-raid.html#dmraid

	Jeff

Re: sata_promise does not see hardware RAID arrays on Fasttrak TX4000

[Gordon Atwood]

On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 02:57:38PM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Gordon Atwood wrote:
> >Ok, I've searched thru dozens of webpages and done the RTFM thing.  If its
> >really obvious, sorry, I still missed it.
> 
> http://linux-ata.org/faq-sata-raid.html#tx2
> 
> http://linux-ata.org/faq-sata-raid.html#dmraid

Hmm...  Ok, so a TX4000 is equivalent to a TX4.  Nothing I read suggested that
so I missed this.  And this is a fake raid card.  Figures.  Should probably
just chuck it.

Unfortunately, although dmraid 'sees' sda-sdd it only recognizes the striped
array on sdc-sdd.  It totally ignores the striped array on sda-sdb.

Even if it did see them, I don't see how I'm any further ahead.

Why should I bother with dmraid when I should just go be able to go directly
to sda-d, format them and then layer software RAID or LVM on top of that.
I can set up the four disks as individual single-disk arrays in the Promise
BIOS and away we go.

If the Promise card has overhead for processing I/O it will be there
regardless of whether I go thru dmraid or mdadm or LVM.  At least in the
latter configuration, I can always go out and get a real 4 port ide
card and just hook up the disks to it.  Then this card can go in the
trash.

Thanks much for the pointer.  Interesting how no matter how hard you search,
there is always a direct thread to the info that you want that you'll
completely miss :-)

G.H.A.

Re: sata_promise does not see hardware RAID arrays on Fasttrak TX4000

[Phillip Susi]

Gordon Atwood wrote:
> Why should I bother with dmraid when I should just go be able to go directly
> to sda-d, format them and then layer software RAID or LVM on top of that.
> I can set up the four disks as individual single-disk arrays in the Promise
> BIOS and away we go.
> 

The advantage to dmraid over mdraid or lvm is that with dmraid you can 
use the bios support to boot directly from the raid.  Another advantage 
is you can dual boot with windows on the array.  With lvm or dmraid you 
have to have a plain single disk boot partition to bring the system up.

> If the Promise card has overhead for processing I/O it will be there
> regardless of whether I go thru dmraid or mdadm or LVM.  At least in the
> latter configuration, I can always go out and get a real 4 port ide
> card and just hook up the disks to it.  Then this card can go in the
> trash.
> 

You can do this in either configuration.  If you configure the drives as 
a raid array using the bios/dmraid, then you can still plug them into 
another controller and dmraid will happily recognize them exactly the 
same way; you just won't be able to boot from the array.

> Thanks much for the pointer.  Interesting how no matter how hard you search,
> there is always a direct thread to the info that you want that you'll
> completely miss :-)
>