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From: Wen Gu <guwen@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Wenjia Zhang <wenjia@linux.ibm.com>,
	wintera@linux.ibm.com, hca@linux.ibm.com, gor@linux.ibm.com,
	agordeev@linux.ibm.com, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com,
	kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com, jaka@linux.ibm.com,
	Gerd Bayer <gbayer@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: borntraeger@linux.ibm.com, svens@linux.ibm.com,
	alibuda@linux.alibaba.com, tonylu@linux.alibaba.com,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 13/15] net/smc: introduce loopback-ism DMB type control
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 11:19:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <442061eb-107a-421d-bc2e-13c8defb0f7b@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <350f1cb8-b205-47be-a296-c610b9afe5fc@linux.ibm.com>



On 2024/2/16 22:25, Wenjia Zhang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11.01.24 13:00, Wen Gu wrote:
>> This provides a way to {get|set} type of DMB offered by loopback-ism,
>> whether it is physically or virtually contiguous memory.
>>
>> echo 0 > /sys/devices/virtual/smc/loopback-ism/dmb_type # physically
>> echo 1 > /sys/devices/virtual/smc/loopback-ism/dmb_type # virtually
>>
>> The settings take effect after re-activating loopback-ism by:
>>
>> echo 0 > /sys/devices/virtual/smc/loopback-ism/active
>> echo 1 > /sys/devices/virtual/smc/loopback-ism/active
>>
>> After this, the link group and DMBs related to loopback-ism will be
>> flushed and subsequent DMBs created will be of the desired type.
>>
>> The motivation of this control is that physically contiguous DMB has
>> best performance but is usually expensive, while the virtually
>> contiguous DMB is cheap and perform well in most scenarios, but if
>> sndbuf and DMB are merged, virtual DMB will be accessed concurrently
>> in Tx and Rx and there will be a bottleneck caused by lock contention
>> of find_vmap_area when there are many CPUs and CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY
>> is set (see link below). So an option is provided.
>>
> I'm courious about why you say that physically contiguous DMB has best performance. Because we saw even a bit better 
> perfomance with the virtual one than the performance with the physical one.

Hi Wenjia, you can find examples from here:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/3189e342-c38f-6076-b730-19a6efd732a5@linux.alibaba.com/
https://lore.kernel.org/all/238e63cd-e0e8-4fbf-852f-bc4d5bc35d5a@linux.alibaba.com/

Excerpted from above:
"
In 48 CPUs qemu environment, the Requests/s increased by 5 times:
- nginx
- wrk -c 1000 -t 96 -d 30 http://127.0.0.1:80

                  vzalloced shmem      vzalloced shmem(with this patch set)
Requests/sec          113536.56            583729.93


But it also has some overhead, compared to using kzalloced shared memory
or unsetting CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY, which won't involve finding vmap area:

                  kzalloced shmem      vzalloced shmem(unset CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY)
Requests/sec          831950.39            805164.78
"

Without CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY, the performance of physical-DMB and
virtual-DMB is basically same (physical-DMB is a bit better), and with
CONFIG_HARDENED_USERCOPY, under many CPUs environment, such as 48 CPUs
here, if we merge sndbuf and DMB, the find_vmap_area lock contention is
heavy, and the performance is drop obviously. So I said physical-DMB has
best performance, since it can guarantee good performance under known
environments.


By the way, we discussed the memory cost before (see [1]), but I found
that when we use s390 ISM (or not merge sndbuf and DMB), the sndbuf also
costs physically contiguous memory.

static struct smc_buf_desc *smcd_new_buf_create(struct smc_link_group *lgr,
						bool is_dmb, int bufsize)
{
<...>
	if (is_dmb) {
<...>
	} else {
		buf_desc->cpu_addr = kzalloc(bufsize, GFP_KERNEL |
					     __GFP_NOWARN | __GFP_NORETRY |
					     __GFP_NOMEMALLOC);
		if (!buf_desc->cpu_addr) {
			kfree(buf_desc);
			return ERR_PTR(-EAGAIN);
		}
		buf_desc->len = bufsize;
	}
<...>
}

So I wonder is it really necessary to use virtual-DMB in loopback-ism? Maybe
we can always use physical-DMB in loopback-ism, then there is no need for the
dmb_type or dmb_copy knobs.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/d6facfd5-e083-ffc7-05e5-2e8f3ef17735@linux.alibaba.com/


Thanks!

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-20  3:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-11 12:00 [PATCH net-next 00/15] net/smc: implement loopback-ism used by SMC-D Wen Gu
2024-01-11 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next 01/15] net/smc: improve SMC-D device dump for virtual ISM Wen Gu
2024-01-11 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next 02/15] net/smc: decouple specialized struct from SMC-D DMB registration Wen Gu
2024-01-11 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next 03/15] net/smc: introduce virtual ISM device loopback-ism Wen Gu
2024-02-16 14:11   ` Wenjia Zhang
2024-02-20  1:20     ` Wen Gu
2024-01-11 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next 04/15] net/smc: implement ID-related operations of loopback-ism Wen Gu
2024-01-11 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next 05/15] net/smc: implement some unsupported " Wen Gu
2024-01-11 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next 06/15] net/smc: implement DMB-related " Wen Gu
2024-02-16 14:13   ` Wenjia Zhang
2024-02-20  1:55     ` Wen Gu
2024-02-23 14:12       ` Wenjia Zhang
2024-02-26  3:04         ` Wen Gu
2024-01-11 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next 07/15] net/smc: register loopback-ism into SMC-D device list Wen Gu
2024-01-11 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next 08/15] net/smc: introduce loopback-ism runtime switch Wen Gu
2024-01-11 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next 09/15] net/smc: introduce loopback-ism statistics attributes Wen Gu
2024-02-16 14:24   ` Wenjia Zhang
2024-02-20  2:45     ` Wen Gu
2024-02-23 14:13       ` Wenjia Zhang
2024-02-26 12:58         ` Wen Gu
2024-01-11 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next 10/15] net/smc: add operations to merge sndbuf with peer DMB Wen Gu
2024-01-11 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next 11/15] net/smc: attach or detach ghost sndbuf to " Wen Gu
2024-01-11 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next 12/15] net/smc: adapt cursor update when sndbuf and peer DMB are merged Wen Gu
2024-01-11 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next 13/15] net/smc: introduce loopback-ism DMB type control Wen Gu
2024-02-16 14:25   ` Wenjia Zhang
2024-02-20  3:19     ` Wen Gu [this message]
2024-01-11 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next 14/15] net/smc: introduce loopback-ism DMB data copy control Wen Gu
2024-01-12 16:24   ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-01-13  7:12     ` Wen Gu
2024-02-16 14:25   ` Wenjia Zhang
2024-02-20  3:36     ` Wen Gu
2024-02-23 14:42       ` Wenjia Zhang
2024-01-11 12:00 ` [PATCH net-next 15/15] net/smc: implement DMB-merged operations of loopback-ism Wen Gu
2024-01-11 13:36 ` [PATCH net-next 00/15] net/smc: implement loopback-ism used by SMC-D Simon Horman
2024-01-12  2:54   ` Wen Gu
2024-01-11 14:50 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-01-12  8:29   ` Wen Gu
2024-01-12  9:10     ` Jiri Pirko
2024-01-12 12:32       ` Wen Gu
2024-01-12 15:50         ` Jiri Pirko
2024-01-13  9:22           ` Wen Gu
2024-01-15 14:11             ` Jiri Pirko
2024-01-18  8:27 ` Wen Gu
2024-01-18 13:59   ` Wenjia Zhang
2024-01-19  1:46     ` Wen Gu
2024-01-23 14:03       ` Alexandra Winter
2024-01-24  6:33         ` Wen Gu
2024-02-05 10:05           ` Wen Gu
2024-02-07  9:08             ` Wenjia Zhang
2024-02-06 12:18 ` Alexandra Winter
2024-02-08 16:12   ` Wen Gu
2024-02-19 14:04   ` Wen Gu
2024-02-16 14:09 ` Wenjia Zhang
2024-02-20  3:52   ` Wen Gu

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