From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.osdl.org,
xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/35] Xen i386 paravirtualization support
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:15:40 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4421863C.4070403@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060322063040.960068000@sorel.sous-sol.org>
Chris Wright wrote:
> Xen also provides support for running directly on native hardware.
>
Can someone elaborate on this? Does this mean a Xen guest can run on
bare metal?
Is there code available to make this work (it doesn't seem contained in
this patchset)? Has any performance analysis been done?
The numbers that have been posted with the VMI patches suggest that some
rather tricky stuff is required to achieve native performance when
running a guest on bare metal. If this is not the case, it would be
very interesting to know because it seems to be the hairiest part of the
VMI patches.
Otherwise, if we want to support Xen guests on bare metal, it seems we
would have to change things in the subarch code a bit to do something
similar to VMI.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> The following patch series provides the minimal support required to
> launch Xen paravirtual guests on standard x86 hardware running the Xen
> hypervisor. These patches effectively port the Linux kernel to run on the
> platform interface provided by Xen. This port is done as an i386 subarch.
>
> With these patches you will be able to launch an unprivileged guest
> running the modified Linux kernel and unmodified userspace. This guest
> is x86, UP only, runs in shadow translated mode, and has no direct access
> to hardware. This simplifies the patchset to the minimum functionality
> needed to support a paravirtualized guest. It's worth noting that
> a fair amount of this patchset deals with paravirtualizing I/O, not
> just CPU-only. The additional missing functionality is primarily about
> full SMP support, optimizations such as direct writable page tables,
> and the management interface. Those refinements will be posted later.
>
> At a high-level, the patches provide the following:
>
> - Kconfig and Makefile changes required to support Xen
> - subarch changes to allow more platform functionality to be
> implemented by an i386 subarch
> - Xen subarch implementation
> - start of day code for running in the hypervisor provided environment (paging
> enabled)
> - basic Xen drivers to provide a fully functional guest
>
> The Xen platform API encapsulates the following types of requirements:
>
> - idt, gdt, ldt (descriptor table handling)
> - cr2, fpu_taskswitch, debug registers (privileged register handling)
> - mmu (page table, tlb, and cache handling)
> - memory reservations
> - time and timer
> - vcpu (init, up/down vcpu)
> - schedule (processor yield, shutdown, etc)
> - event channel (generalized virtual interrupt handling)
> - grant table (shared memory interface for high speed interdomain communication)
> - block device I/O
> - network device I/O
> - console device I/O
> - Xen feature map
> - Xen version info
>
> Thanks to those who provided early feedback to this patchset: Andi Kleen,
> Gerd Hoffmann, Jan Beulich, Rik van Riel, Stephen Tweedie, and the Xen team.
> And thanks to the Xen community: AMD, HP, IBM, Intel, Novell, Red Hat,
> Virtual Iron, XenSource -- see Xen changelog for full details.
>
> Known issues:
>
> CodingStyle conformance is still in progress
> /proc interface needs to be replaced with something more appropriate
> entry.S cleanups are possible
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-03-22 17:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-22 6:30 [RFC PATCH 00/35] Xen i386 paravirtualization support Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 01/35] Add XEN config options and disable unsupported config options Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 02/35] Makefile support to build Xen subarch Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 03/35] Add Xen interface header files Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 04/35] Hypervisor " Chris Wright
2006-03-22 8:28 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-22 9:31 ` Keir Fraser
2006-03-22 9:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-22 11:32 ` David Schwartz
2006-03-22 14:29 ` Keir Fraser
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 05/35] Add sync bitops Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 06/35] Add vmlinuz build target Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 07/35] Make LOAD_OFFSET defined by subarch Chris Wright
2006-03-22 22:57 ` Dan Hecht
2006-03-27 8:18 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 08/35] Add Xen-specific memory management definitions Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 09/35] Change __FIXADDR_TOP to leave room for the hypervisor Chris Wright
2006-03-22 17:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-03-22 17:32 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 10/35] Add a new head.S start-of-day file for booting on Xen Chris Wright
2006-03-22 13:43 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 18:58 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-22 18:45 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 19:26 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 11/35] Add support for Xen to entry.S Chris Wright
2006-03-22 13:55 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 17:24 ` [Xen-devel] " Zachary Amsden
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 12/35] Add start-of-day setup hooks to subarch Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 13/35] Support loading an initrd when running on Xen Chris Wright
2006-03-22 14:22 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 19:20 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 14/35] subarch modify CPU capabilities Chris Wright
2006-03-22 8:35 ` [Xen-devel] " Zachary Amsden
2006-03-22 9:33 ` Keir Fraser
2006-03-22 19:29 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 15/35] subarch support for controlling interrupt delivery Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 16/35] subarch support for interrupt and exception gates Chris Wright
2006-03-22 13:45 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 20:54 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 17/35] Segment register changes for Xen Chris Wright
2006-03-22 14:24 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 19:33 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-23 0:16 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 18/35] Support gdt/idt/ldt handling on Xen Chris Wright
2006-03-22 14:30 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 17:51 ` [Xen-devel] " Zachary Amsden
2006-03-22 17:36 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 6:30 ` [RFC PATCH 19/35] subarch support for control register accesses Chris Wright
2006-03-22 8:55 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-03-22 21:45 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:31 ` [RFC PATCH 20/35] subarch stack pointer update Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:31 ` [RFC PATCH 21/35] subarch TLB support Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:31 ` [RFC PATCH 22/35] subarch suport for idle loop (NO_IDLE_HZ for Xen) Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:31 ` [RFC PATCH 23/35] Add support for Xen event channels Chris Wright
2006-03-22 8:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-22 11:30 ` Keir Fraser
2006-03-22 14:07 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 6:31 ` [RFC PATCH 24/35] subarch support for mask value for irq nubmers Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:31 ` [RFC PATCH 25/35] Add Xen time abstractions Chris Wright
2006-03-22 8:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-22 19:37 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-22 22:26 ` [Xen-devel] " Dan Hecht
2006-03-23 3:23 ` [Xen-devel] " Eli Collins
2006-03-23 6:47 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:31 ` [RFC PATCH 26/35] Add Xen subarch reboot support Chris Wright
2006-03-22 8:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-22 10:22 ` Keir Fraser
2006-03-22 10:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-22 10:52 ` Keir Fraser
2006-03-22 14:21 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 20:59 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-22 6:31 ` [RFC PATCH 27/35] Add nosegneg capability to the vsyscall page notes Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:31 ` [RFC PATCH 28/35] add support for Xen feature queries Chris Wright
2006-03-22 8:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-22 6:31 ` [RFC PATCH 29/35] Add the Xen virtual console driver Chris Wright
2006-03-22 8:43 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-22 9:29 ` Keir Fraser
2006-03-22 14:17 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 16:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-03-22 16:07 ` Keir Fraser
2006-03-22 16:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-03-22 6:31 ` [RFC PATCH 30/35] Add generic_page_range() function Chris Wright
2006-03-22 8:51 ` Zachary Amsden
2006-03-22 9:27 ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2006-03-22 11:21 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-22 14:33 ` Keir Fraser
2006-03-22 15:35 ` Keir Fraser
2006-03-23 0:15 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-23 0:26 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-22 6:31 ` [RFC PATCH 31/35] Add Xen grant table support Chris Wright
2006-03-22 8:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-22 18:38 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-22 6:31 ` [RFC PATCH 32/35] Add Xen driver utility functions Chris Wright
2006-03-22 14:12 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 6:31 ` [RFC PATCH 33/35] Add the Xenbus sysfs and virtual device hotplug driver Chris Wright
2006-03-22 8:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-22 11:14 ` Keir Fraser
2006-03-22 6:31 ` [RFC PATCH 34/35] Add the Xen virtual network device driver Chris Wright
2006-03-22 8:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-22 15:29 ` James Morris
2006-03-22 17:17 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-03-22 6:31 ` [RFC PATCH 35/35] Add Xen virtual block " Chris Wright
2006-03-22 16:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-03-22 16:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-03-27 8:42 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2006-03-22 17:15 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2006-03-22 17:27 ` [RFC PATCH 00/35] Xen i386 paravirtualization support Chris Wright
2006-03-22 17:50 ` Anthony Liguori
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-05-09 8:49 Chris Wright
2006-05-09 14:49 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-05-09 15:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-05-09 15:12 ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-05-09 15:20 ` Andi Kleen
2006-05-09 15:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-05-09 15:45 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-05-14 1:35 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-15 21:01 ` Chris Wright
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