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From: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	virtualization@lists.osdl.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Dan Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>,
	Dan Arai <arai@vmware.com>, Anne Holler <anne@vmware.com>,
	Pratap Subrahmanyam <pratap@vmware.com>,
	Christopher Li <chrisl@vmware.com>,
	Joshua LeVasseur <jtl@ira.uka.de>, Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>,
	Rik Van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Jyothy Reddy <jreddy@vmware.com>,
	Jack Lo <jlo@vmware.com>, Kip Macy <kmacy@fsmware.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com>,
	Ky Srinivasan <ksrinivasan@novell.com>,
	Wim Coekaerts <wim.coekaerts@oracle.com>,
	Leendert van Doorn <leendert@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCH 1/24] i386 Vmi documentation
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:06:10 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4421E672.3040803@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200603222213.45910.ak@suse.de>

Andi Kleen wrote:
> Even then it's useless for many flags because any user program can (and will) 
> call CPUID directly. 

Turns out not to matter, since userspace can only make use of 
capabilities that are already available to userspace.  If the feature 
bits for system features are visible to it, it doesn't really matter.  
Yes, this could be broken in some cases.  But it turns out to be safe.  
Even sysenter support, which userspace does care about, is done via 
setting the vsyscall page up in the kernel, rather than userspace CPUID 
detection.

> Sure the point was if they write this long fancy document why stop
> at documenting the last 5%?
>   

Because the last 5% is what is changing to meet Xen's needs.  Why 
document something that you know you are going to break in a week?  I 
chose to document the stable interfaces first.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-03-23  0:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200603131759.k2DHxeep005627@zach-dev.vmware.com>
     [not found] ` <20060313224902.GD12807@sorel.sous-sol.org>
2006-03-14  0:00   ` [RFC, PATCH 1/24] i386 Vmi documentation Zachary Amsden
2006-03-14 21:27     ` Chris Wright
     [not found]       ` <441743BD.1070108@vmware.com>
2006-03-15  2:57         ` Chris Wright
2006-03-15  5:44           ` Zachary Amsden
2006-03-15 22:56           ` Daniel Arai
2006-03-16  1:16       ` Chris Wright
2006-03-16  3:40         ` Eli Collins
2006-03-14  4:11 ` Rik van Riel
2006-03-22 20:05 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 21:34   ` Chris Wright
2006-03-22 21:13     ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 21:57       ` Chris Wright
2006-03-23  0:06       ` Zachary Amsden [this message]
2006-03-22 21:39   ` [RFC, PATCH 1/24] i386 Vmi documentation II Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 22:43     ` Daniel Arai
2006-03-22 22:45     ` Zachary Amsden
2006-03-22 22:38       ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 23:54         ` Zachary Amsden
2006-03-22 23:37           ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-22 22:04   ` [RFC, PATCH 1/24] i386 Vmi documentation Zachary Amsden
2006-03-22 21:58     ` Andi Kleen

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