From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>
Cc: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-smp@vger.kernel.org,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] sched.c : procfs tunables
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:47:42 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4435D2CE.9080708@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200604041627.19903.a1426z@gawab.com>
Al Boldi wrote:
>Con Kolivas wrote:
>
>
>>On Monday 03 April 2006 21:59, Al Boldi wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Con Kolivas wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>None of the current "tunables" have easily understandable heuristics.
>>>>Even those that appear to be obvious, like timselice, are not. While
>>>>exporting tunables is not a bad idea, exporting tunables that noone
>>>>understands is not really helpful.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Couldn't this be fixed with an autotuning module based on cpu/mem/ctxt
>>>performance?
>>>
>>>
>>You're assuming there is some meaningful relationship between changes in
>>cpu/mem/ctxt performance and these tunables, which isn't the case.
>>Furthermore if this was the case, noone understands it, can predict it or
>>know how to tune it. Just saying "autotune it" doesn't really tell us how
>>exactly the change those tunables in relation to the other variables.
>>Since Mike and I understand them reasonably well I think we'd both agree
>>that there is no meaningful association.
>>
>>
>
>After playing w/ these tunables it occurred to me that they are really only
>deadline limits, w/ a direct relation to cpu/mem/ctxt perf.
>
>i.e timeslice=1 on i386sx means something other than timeslice=1 on amd64
>
>It follows that w/o autotuning, the static default values have to be selected
>to allow for a large underlying perf range w/ a preference for the high
>range. This is also the reason why 2.6 feels really crummy on low perf
>ranges.
>
>
Actually the lower HZ has something to do with that, and tuning
swappiness can also help a lot.
>Autotuning the default values would allow to tighten this range specific to
>the hw used, thus allowing for a smoother desktop experience.
>
--
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
CTO TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-04-07 2:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-31 14:23 [RFC] sched.c : procfs tunables Al Boldi
2006-03-31 14:44 ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-03 11:59 ` Al Boldi
2006-04-03 12:21 ` Con Kolivas
2006-04-04 13:27 ` Al Boldi
2006-04-07 2:47 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2006-04-03 12:43 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-04-01 2:49 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-04-07 2:57 ` Bill Davidsen
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