From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>,
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>,
Linux Kernel ML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Virtualization steps
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:14:17 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <443B8F89.8070608@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <443B85B4.7030009@sw.ru>
Kirill Korotaev wrote:
>> Yes... about that; if/when namespaces get into the kernel, you guys
>> are going to start pushing all sorts of per-container resource
>> control, right? Or will you be happy to leave most of that to VMs?
>
>
> Nick, OpenVZ, for example, uses "User Bean Counters" patch originally
> developed by Alan Cox. The good thing is that it is fully separate from
> virtualization and allows to control any users or set of processes.
> Don't you think it is valuable and helpful feature itself? Why are you
> afraid of resource management?
I'm afraid of resource management because I've seen things like the
ckrm cpu resource manager.
Considering we tend to mostly have only per-process resource management,
low level virtualisation seems like a much better place to do this.
--
SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-04-11 14:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-24 17:19 [RFC] Virtualization steps Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-24 17:33 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-24 19:25 ` Dave Hansen
2006-03-24 19:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-28 4:28 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-03-28 5:31 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-28 6:45 ` [Devel] " Kir Kolyshkin
2006-03-28 21:59 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-28 22:24 ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-03-28 23:28 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 9:13 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-29 11:08 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 13:45 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-29 14:47 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-29 17:29 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-29 21:37 ` Sam Vilain
2006-04-12 8:28 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-13 1:05 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-04-13 6:52 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-13 13:42 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-04-13 21:33 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-04-13 22:45 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-04-14 7:41 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-14 9:56 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-04-15 19:29 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-04-13 22:51 ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-04-14 10:08 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-04-15 19:31 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-28 8:52 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-28 9:00 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-28 14:26 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-28 14:44 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-29 6:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-29 6:19 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 18:20 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-29 22:36 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 22:52 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-29 23:01 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 23:13 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-29 23:18 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 23:28 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-30 1:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 1:36 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-30 1:41 ` David Lang
2006-03-30 2:04 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-30 14:32 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-30 15:30 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-30 16:43 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-30 18:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-31 13:40 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-30 16:07 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-03-30 16:15 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-30 18:55 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-30 18:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 19:07 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-31 5:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-31 5:51 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-31 6:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 18:53 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-30 2:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 19:23 ` Chris Wright
2006-03-31 6:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-31 14:52 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-03-31 16:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 13:29 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-30 13:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 14:55 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-30 2:24 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-30 3:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 3:26 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-30 10:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-11 10:32 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-11 11:14 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2006-04-11 14:44 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-28 9:00 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-28 14:41 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-03-28 15:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-28 17:48 ` Jeff Dike
2006-03-28 23:07 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 20:56 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-03-28 20:29 ` [Devel] " Jun OKAJIMA
2006-03-28 20:50 ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-03-28 21:38 ` Jun OKAJIMA
2006-03-28 21:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-28 23:18 ` Sam Vilain
2006-04-03 16:47 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-04-11 10:38 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-11 16:20 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-04-11 18:12 ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-04-12 5:12 ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-12 6:55 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-12 6:53 ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-12 7:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-12 17:03 ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-12 17:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-13 16:54 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-04-30 13:22 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-04-30 21:34 ` Sam Vilain
2006-05-01 12:27 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-05-03 20:32 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-03-28 9:02 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-28 9:15 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-28 15:35 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-28 15:53 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-28 16:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-29 21:37 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-03-28 16:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-28 23:04 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 1:39 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-29 13:47 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-28 15:48 ` [Devel] " Matt Ayres
2006-03-28 16:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-28 17:04 ` Matt Ayres
2006-03-29 0:55 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-24 18:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-24 21:19 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-27 18:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-28 8:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-28 12:53 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-28 22:51 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 20:30 ` Dave Hansen
2006-03-29 20:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-29 22:44 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-30 13:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-28 21:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
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