From: Avi Kivity <avi@argo.co.il>
To: Davi Arnaut <davi.lkml@gmail.com>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>,
Denis Vlasenko <vda@ilport.com.ua>,
dtor_core@ameritech.net, Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Compiling C++ modules
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 12:33:57 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4451E185.9030107@argo.co.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <750c918d0604271408y2afef6fflf380e4d0a6c1cec6@mail.gmail.com>
Davi Arnaut wrote:
>>
>> Mozilla is written in C++ ? I start to better understand where the
>> 160 MB bloat comes from...
>>
>
> Evolution is written in C.
>
FWIW, userspace is moving away from C as unproductive and unsafe. KDE is
of course C++, mozilla, openoffice are C++, and gnome is moving towards
(of all things) C#.
GCC considered adopting a C++ subset. My impressions of the discussion
was that (a) a majority of the developers would like that (b) RMS would
never allow it (c) there were concerns about bootstrap on platforms
where a C++ compiler was not available.
Kernels of other operating systems (Windows, AIX (?)) allow C++. And
don't start about Windows crashing whenever you sneeze at it - it's so 1998.
--
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-04-28 9:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 200+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-04-24 19:16 Compiling C++ modules Gary Poppitz
2006-04-24 19:27 ` Greg KH
2006-04-24 20:02 ` C++ pushback Gary Poppitz
2006-04-24 20:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-04-24 20:16 ` Greg KH
2006-04-24 20:18 ` Martin Mares
2006-04-24 21:36 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-04-24 21:28 ` J.A. Magallon
2006-04-24 21:43 ` Harald Arnesen
2006-04-24 21:52 ` Alan Cox
2006-04-24 22:16 ` J.A. Magallon
2006-04-25 0:05 ` Harald Arnesen
2006-04-25 0:46 ` Diego Calleja
2006-04-25 9:12 ` Harald Arnesen
2006-04-25 1:30 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-04-25 2:58 ` marty fouts
2006-04-27 22:55 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-05-02 15:58 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-05-02 20:36 ` David Schwartz
2006-04-25 8:15 ` Xavier Bestel
2006-04-25 8:42 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-25 8:52 ` Martin Mares
2006-04-25 9:00 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-25 9:05 ` Martin Mares
2006-04-25 9:13 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-25 9:22 ` Xavier Bestel
2006-04-25 20:20 ` J.A. Magallon
2006-04-25 20:31 ` Barry Kelly
2006-04-25 9:09 ` Nikita Danilov
2006-04-25 20:10 ` J.A. Magallon
2006-04-25 18:02 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-04-27 9:09 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2006-04-24 22:39 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-04-24 22:57 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-04-24 23:02 ` David Schwartz
2006-04-25 8:55 ` Martin Mares
2006-04-25 8:59 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-04-25 14:37 ` David Schwartz
2006-04-25 19:50 ` Martin Mares
2006-04-26 2:33 ` David Schwartz
2006-04-26 3:42 ` Matthew Frost
2006-04-26 19:25 ` David Schwartz
2006-04-26 20:01 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-04-26 20:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-04-26 20:19 ` Al Viro
2006-04-26 21:37 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-04-28 9:23 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-28 12:00 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-04-28 12:46 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-04-26 20:25 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-04-26 20:43 ` David Schwartz
2006-04-26 23:00 ` Roman Kononov
2006-04-27 0:38 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-04-27 2:05 ` Roman Kononov
2006-04-27 3:37 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-04-27 5:37 ` Roman Kononov
2006-04-27 13:58 ` Michael Buesch
2006-04-27 14:22 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-04-27 8:07 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-27 13:55 ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-04-27 14:27 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-27 14:56 ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-04-27 15:54 ` Bob Copeland
2006-04-27 16:03 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-27 15:00 ` Martin Mares
2006-04-27 15:31 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-27 15:38 ` Martin Mares
2006-04-28 8:16 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-28 8:30 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-28 15:47 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-04-28 15:51 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-04-28 16:51 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-27 14:50 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-04-27 8:50 ` Martin Mares
2006-04-27 3:57 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-04-27 5:53 ` Roman Kononov
2006-04-27 7:55 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2006-04-27 17:20 ` C++ pushback (when does this religious thread end?) Leonard Peterson
2006-04-30 17:48 ` C++ pushback Jan Harkes
2006-04-30 20:55 ` David Schwartz
2006-04-26 20:05 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-04-26 20:09 ` Xavier Bestel
2006-04-26 20:44 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-05-02 20:09 ` C++ pushback + sparse Randy.Dunlap
2006-04-27 7:49 ` C++ pushback Jiri Kosina
2006-04-26 21:05 ` Martin Mares
2006-04-25 7:33 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-25 7:47 ` Nick Piggin
2006-05-13 16:21 ` Esben Nielsen
2006-04-24 20:36 ` Thiago Galesi
2006-04-24 21:38 ` Kurt Wall
2006-04-27 16:17 ` Roman Kononov
2006-04-27 21:59 ` Grant Coady
2006-04-27 22:09 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-04-27 23:19 ` Jan Knutar
2006-04-24 19:30 ` Compiling C++ modules Al Viro
2006-04-24 19:40 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-04-24 20:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-04-24 19:42 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2006-04-24 20:30 ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-04-24 20:35 ` C++ is in US [Re: Compiling C++ modules] Jiri Slaby
2006-04-24 20:45 ` Compiling C++ modules Alan Cox
2006-04-24 21:03 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-24 21:23 ` Joshua Hudson
2006-04-24 21:29 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-04-24 21:50 ` marty fouts
2006-04-24 22:09 ` Martin Mares
2006-04-24 22:30 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-04-24 22:32 ` Joshua Hudson
2006-04-24 22:45 ` marty fouts
2006-04-25 15:32 ` Michael Buesch
2006-04-25 7:08 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-25 10:23 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-04-25 15:59 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-04-25 16:46 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-25 17:10 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-04-25 17:19 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-25 17:28 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-04-25 17:53 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-25 18:04 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-04-25 18:08 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-04-25 18:26 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-25 18:38 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-25 18:52 ` Michael Poole
2006-04-25 19:13 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-27 15:10 ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-04-27 20:15 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-04-27 21:08 ` Davi Arnaut
2006-04-28 9:33 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2006-04-28 10:03 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-28 11:27 ` Sergei Organov
2006-04-28 11:03 ` Martin Mares
2006-04-28 11:30 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-28 15:56 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-04-28 17:02 ` Avi Kivity
2006-04-28 17:38 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-04-29 2:50 ` Christer Weinigel
2006-05-01 17:46 ` Dave Neuer
2006-05-01 20:21 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-05-01 23:53 ` David Schwartz
2006-05-02 5:12 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-05-02 10:32 ` Avi Kivity
2006-05-02 11:15 ` Martin Mares
2006-05-02 11:26 ` Avi Kivity
2006-05-02 11:40 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-05-02 12:42 ` David Woodhouse
2006-05-02 16:27 ` Christer Weinigel
2006-05-02 12:48 ` Martin Mares
2006-05-02 13:52 ` Avi Kivity
2006-05-02 14:13 ` Al Viro
2006-05-02 14:54 ` Avi Kivity
2006-05-02 16:16 ` Brian Beattie
2006-05-02 16:21 ` Avi Kivity
2006-05-02 13:21 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-05-02 14:41 ` Avi Kivity
2006-05-02 22:25 ` Diego Calleja
2006-05-02 13:34 ` Al Viro
2006-05-02 14:02 ` Avi Kivity
2006-05-02 14:34 ` Al Viro
2006-05-02 15:04 ` Avi Kivity
2006-05-02 15:15 ` Al Viro
2006-05-02 15:19 ` Avi Kivity
2006-05-02 15:27 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-02 15:30 ` Avi Kivity
2006-05-02 15:28 ` Al Viro
2006-05-02 15:51 ` Avi Kivity
2006-05-02 15:24 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-03 13:13 ` Mark Lord
2006-05-03 20:51 ` David Schwartz
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2006-04-26 11:36 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
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2006-04-25 19:54 ` Michael Buesch
2006-04-25 20:24 ` Avi Kivity
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2006-04-25 21:02 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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2006-04-25 21:08 ` Bongani Hlope
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2006-04-25 8:58 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-04-25 7:56 ` Jakob Oestergaard
2006-04-25 9:03 ` Jan Engelhardt
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