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From: Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no>
To: Wu Fengguang <wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] kernel facilities for cache prefetching
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 11:02:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4459C30C.4080309@aitel.hist.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <346556235.24875@ustc.edu.cn>

Wu Fengguang wrote:

>	Rapid linux desktop startup through pre-caching
>
>
>MOTIVATION
>
>	KDE, Gnome, OpenOffice, and Firefox all take too long to start up.
>	Boot time pre-caching seems to be the single most straightforward and
>	effective way to improve it and make linux desktop experience more
>	comfortable. It is a great pleasure for me to take up the work.
>  
>
Actually, the best way is to not run so much software.  An yes,
that is an option.  I won't say no to an improved kernel too though. :-)

The apps mentioned are popular, but few needs *all* of them.
One can do without KDE and gnome, run a nice lightweight
window manager instead.  Take the kde/gnome performance hit
only when you actually need some kde/gnome app. Not every day.
A nice windowmanager like icewm of fluxbox brings the login
delay down to 3s or so for me.

Openoffice has lightweight alternatives for every task.
(abiword,lyx,gnumeric, . . . )  Strange that this bloated sw is
as popular as it is, given the many alternatives.  Not something
I use every month, and I use linux exclusively for my office tasks.

Another alternative is to profile the slow apps and improve them.
Fix algorithms, optimize stuff. 

The slow boot is fixable by:
1) run boot scripts in parallell instead of sequentially - somewhat 
experimental
    but helps.  Especially if you can bring up X before slowest stuff 
completes.
2) Don't run what you don't use/need!  Don't install everything and the 
kitchen
    sink just because it is free software.  I am guilty of installing 
too much myself,
    so I suffer 40-second bootup time.  But I don't reboot my office pc 
every
    week, normally I only have that 3s login delay.

Helge Hafting



  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-05-04  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20060502075049.GA5000@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-02  7:50 ` [RFC] kernel facilities for cache prefetching Wu Fengguang
2006-05-02 12:46   ` Diego Calleja
     [not found]     ` <20060502144203.GA10594@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-02 14:42       ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-02 16:07         ` Diego Calleja
     [not found]           ` <20060503064503.GA4781@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-03  6:45             ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-03 18:14               ` Diego Calleja
2006-05-03 23:39                 ` Zan Lynx
2006-05-04  1:37                   ` Diego Calleja
2006-05-02 15:55   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-02 16:35     ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]     ` <20060503071325.GC4781@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-03  7:13       ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-03 12:59     ` Nikita Danilov
     [not found]     ` <20060503041106.GC5915@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-03  4:11       ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-03 17:28       ` Badari Pulavarty
     [not found]         ` <346733486.30800@ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-04 15:03           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-04 16:57             ` Badari Pulavarty
     [not found]             ` <20060505144451.GA6134@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-05 14:44               ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-03 22:20     ` Rik van Riel
     [not found]       ` <20060506011125.GA9099@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-06  1:11         ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-04  0:28     ` Linda Walsh
2006-05-04  1:31       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-05-04  7:08         ` Ph. Marek
2006-05-04  7:33           ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]             ` <20060504121454.GB6008@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-04 12:14               ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-04 12:34               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-03 21:45   ` Linda Walsh
     [not found]     ` <20060504121212.GA6008@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-04 12:12       ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-04 18:57         ` Linda Walsh
     [not found]           ` <20060505152007.GB6134@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-05 15:20             ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-04  9:02   ` Helge Hafting [this message]
2006-05-02  7:58 ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]   ` <20060502080619.GA5406@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-02  8:06     ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-02  8:30     ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]       ` <20060502085325.GA9190@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-02  8:53         ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-06  6:49           ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-05-02  8:55         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-02 11:39           ` Jan Engelhardt
     [not found]           ` <20060502114853.GA9983@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-02 11:48             ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-02 22:03       ` Dave Jones
2006-05-02  8:09 ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]   ` <20060502082009.GA9038@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-02  8:20     ` Wu Fengguang
2006-05-03 22:05   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-05-02 19:10 ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-02 23:36   ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]     ` <20060503023505.GB5915@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-03  2:35       ` Wu Fengguang
     [not found]   ` <20060503023223.GA5915@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-03  2:32     ` Wu Fengguang
     [not found]   ` <20060503071948.GD4781@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-03  7:19     ` Wu Fengguang
     [not found]   ` <20060504122830.GA6205@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-05-04 12:28     ` Wu Fengguang

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