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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
Cc: linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	greg@kroah.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pjones@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Add a "enable" sysfs attribute to the pci devices to allow userspace (Xorg) to enable devices without doing foul direct access
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 21:49:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <445A5AE1.5000904@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200605041326.36518.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>

Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Thursday 04 May 2006 13:11, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>> Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>> On Saturday 29 April 2006 03:04, Dave Airlie wrote:
>>>>> This patch adds an "enable" sysfs attribute to each PCI device. When read it
>>>>> shows the "enabled-ness" of the device, but you can write a "0" into it to
>>>>> disable a device, and a "1" to enable it.
>>>>>
>>>>> This later is needed for X and other cases where userspace wants to enable
>>>>> the BARs on a device (typical example: to run the video bios on a secundary
>>>>> head). Right now X does all this "by hand" via bitbanging, that's just evil.
>>>>> This allows X to no longer do that but to just let the kernel do this.
>>> I'm all in favor of cleaning up X.  But making the X code prettier without
>>> changing the underlying issues of claiming and sharing resources doesn't
>>> help much.  In fact, I suspect the ultimate plan for X does not involve
>>> an "enable" attribute in sysfs, so this may just introduce ABI cruft that
>>> will be difficult to remove later.
>> it goes well beyond X. Things like vbetool need this too to get to the content
>> of the rom for example. There are several other such cases...
> 
> There's already a "rom" file in sysfs.  Could vbetool and friends
> use that?

not unless the device is enabled.


> How do vbetool and X coordinate their usage of "enable"?

Just never disable :)







  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-05-04 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-29  8:46 Add a "enable" sysfs attribute to the pci devices to allow userspace (Xorg) to enable devices without doing foul direct access Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-29  8:51 ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-29  8:59   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-04-29  9:04     ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-02 16:14       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2006-05-02 16:21         ` Greg KH
2006-05-02 16:51           ` Jesse Barnes
2006-05-04 19:09       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2006-05-04 19:11         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-04 19:26           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2006-05-04 19:42             ` Matthew Garrett
2006-05-04 20:40               ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-04 21:05                 ` Peter Jones
2006-05-04 21:17                   ` Martin Mares
2006-05-04 21:29                     ` Peter Jones
2006-05-04 21:37                       ` Martin Mares
2006-05-04 21:38                       ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-04 23:22                         ` Peter Jones
2006-05-05 19:20                           ` Ian Romanick
2006-05-05 20:14                             ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-05 20:26                               ` Greg KH
2006-05-05 20:35                                 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-05 20:43                                   ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-05 21:10                                     ` Greg KH
2006-05-05 21:06                                   ` Greg KH
2006-05-05 21:15                                     ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-05 22:27                                       ` Greg KH
2006-05-06  0:05                                         ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-06  1:57                                           ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-06  3:39                                             ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-06 12:42                                               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-05-06 13:08                                                 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-06 18:10                                                   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-05-06 18:24                                                     ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-06 23:16                                                       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-05-07  5:56                                                         ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-07 12:05                                                           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-05-07 19:07                                                             ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-08  0:03                                                               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-05-07 13:12                                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-08 14:26                                               ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-08 14:54                                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-08  4:06                                           ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-08  5:27                                             ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-07  8:54                                 ` Adam Belay
2006-05-14  0:29                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-05-14  0:56                         ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-14 23:57                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-05-15  0:14                             ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-14  0:57                         ` Patrick McFarland
2006-05-14  1:11                           ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-04 21:18                   ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-04 21:38                     ` Peter Jones
2006-05-04 21:48                       ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-04 21:57                         ` Peter Jones
2006-05-04 22:05                           ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-04 19:49             ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2006-05-15  2:10     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-02 16:38 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-02 16:45   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-02 16:59     ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-02 17:00       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-02 17:13         ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-02 18:27           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-02 19:00             ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-02 19:29               ` Peter Jones
2006-05-02 21:40               ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-02 21:52                 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-02 23:36                   ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-03  0:19                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-05-03  0:26                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-03  1:24                     ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-03  1:30                       ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-03  6:02                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-05-03 13:23                     ` Jon Smirl

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