From: Sam Vilain <sam@vilain.net>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dev@sw.ru, herbert@13thfloor.at,
devel@openvz.org, ebiederm@xmission.com, xemul@sw.ru,
haveblue@us.ibm.com, clg@fr.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] namespaces: Introduction
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 11:28:51 +1200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <446D0333.1020503@vilain.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060518103430.080e3523.akpm@osdl.org>
Andrew Morton wrote:
>Generally, I think that the whole approach of virtualising the OS so it can
>run multiple independent instances of userspace is a good one.
>[...]
>All of which begs the question "now what?".
>[...]
> It would help set minds at ease if someone could produce a
> bullet-point list of what features the kernel will need to get it to the
> stage where "most or all vserver and openvz functionality can be
> implemented by controlling resource namespaces from userspace." Then we
> can discuss that list, make sure that everyone's pretty much in
> agreement.
>
>
This is a heartening position to hear from someone such as yourself; we
seem to be at a near consensus of the way forward.
Here's a list based on the one I came up with when I originally started
my line of development, which got shot down so badly it lost a few
priority points on my workqueue scheduler :-).
0. features that don't need namespaces per se
a. Bind Mount Options (mount --bind -o ro, etc)
b. FS - immutable linkage invert (immulink)
1. core vserver patch - no features (this stuff is succeeded by Serge's
set)
a. struct and ps addition; internal API and refcounting
b. syscall, and switch (to be canned)
c. /proc visibility
d. debugging
e. history
2. isolation features
a. IPC, semaphore, and signal restrictions
b. proc/array filtering
c. IPv4 chbind
d. FS chroot() barrier
e. general /proc filtering
f. ptrace
g. process admin: alloc_uid, find_user, sys_setpriority
3. virtualisation features
a. uts information
b. initpid virtualisation
c. uptime
d. time
e. load average
f. ksyslog
g. vshelper (reboot support)
h. vroot (quota, fs IOCTL, etc)
i. general PID virtualisation (eric)
j. ngnet (network stack virtualisation)
4. resource tracking features
a. scheduler tracking hook
b. FS namespace counting
c. FS namespace tagging
d. ulimits
e. RSS usage
f. IO - async tracking
5. resource sharing features
a. scheduling v1 - TBF and vavavoom
b. disk scheduler integration
c. RSS limits
d. FS - mad cow
6. resource limit features
a. scheduler
b. rlimits
c. disklimits
7. super whizzy features
a. Namespace checkpointing
b. Namespace migration
c. HA Cluster Computing (think Tandem)
Can anyone see any that are missed?
As far as how it is tested etc, I have no particular preferences,
whatever people are happy with. I'll continue to track submissions in
the utsl.gen.nz repository:
http://utsl.gen.nz/gitweb/?p=vserver
I'll import Serge's new submission there now.
Sam.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-05-18 23:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-05-18 15:47 [PATCH 0/9] namespaces: Introduction Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-18 15:48 ` [PATCH 1/9] namespaces: add nsproxy Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-21 23:30 ` Sam Vilain
2006-05-21 23:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-22 12:39 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-18 15:49 ` [PATCH 2/9] namespaces: incorporate fs namespace into nsproxy Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-18 15:49 ` [PATCH 3/9] namespaces: utsname: introduce temporary helpers Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-18 15:49 ` [PATCH 4/9] namespaces: utsname: switch to using uts namespaces Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-19 0:02 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-05-19 2:21 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-19 2:45 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-05-19 3:12 ` Sam Vilain
2006-05-19 9:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-19 17:39 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-05-19 11:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-22 19:43 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-05-22 20:19 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-05-22 0:19 ` Sam Vilain
2006-05-18 15:49 ` [PATCH 5/9] namespaces: utsname: use init_utsname when appropriate Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-18 15:50 ` [PATCH 6/9] namespaces: utsname: implement utsname namespaces Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-18 15:50 ` [PATCH 7/9] namespaces: utsname: sysctl hack Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-18 15:50 ` [PATCH 8/9] namespaces: utsname: remove system_utsname Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-18 23:03 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-05-18 23:04 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-05-18 15:51 ` [PATCH 9/9] namespaces: utsname: implement CLONE_NEWUTS flag Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-18 17:34 ` [PATCH 0/9] namespaces: Introduction Andrew Morton
2006-05-18 19:23 ` John Kelly
2006-05-18 23:28 ` Sam Vilain [this message]
2006-05-18 23:43 ` Sam Vilain
2006-05-19 4:24 ` Paul Jackson
2006-05-19 9:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-19 11:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-19 17:52 ` Jeff Dike
2006-05-20 0:16 ` Sam Vilain
2006-05-19 12:42 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-05-19 15:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-19 16:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-19 16:40 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-19 17:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-05-19 20:17 ` Dave Hansen
2006-05-19 20:52 ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-05-19 18:28 ` Hua Zhong
2006-05-19 19:38 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-19 19:45 ` John Kelly
2006-05-19 20:23 ` John Kelly
2006-05-19 20:04 ` Dave Hansen
2006-05-20 3:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-21 0:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-21 22:57 ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-21 23:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-21 23:32 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-05-22 16:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-19 13:47 ` Andrey Savochkin
2006-05-19 15:25 ` Andrew Morton
2006-05-20 21:24 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-05-22 17:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-20 0:16 ` Sam Vilain
2006-05-19 8:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-19 13:30 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-21 16:27 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-21 18:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-05-22 12:10 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-05-22 16:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
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