From: Paulo Marques <pmarques@grupopie.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>,
"D. Hazelton" <dhazelton@enter.net>,
Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
Manu Abraham <abraham.manu@gmail.com>,
linux cbon <linuxcbon@yahoo.fr>,
Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no>,
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: OpenGL-based framebuffer concepts
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 16:57:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4475D3CE.3010309@grupopie.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4475C845.5000801@garzik.org>
Jeff Garzik wrote:
>[...]
>> would also pick up the ability to reset secondary cards at boot.
>
> But if you think the kernel will grow an x86 emulator, you're dreaming.
> That's what initramfs and friends are for.
I really don't want to push the x86 emulator idea, especially when
kernel gurus that I respect very much, such as yourself, seem to be
against it.
It just seems awkward that everyone thinks its fine to have a 30Kb ACPI
interpreter in the kernel that loads a DSDT and executes it, but a 30Kb
x86 emulator that loads a video ROM and executes it is completely absurd.
Some PC's need an ACPI interpreter to function properly, some video
cards need a x86 emulator to function properly.
Why is everyone so keen on keeping the video drivers crippled, but no
one says "ACPI should be done from user space with user mode helpers"?
--
Paulo Marques - www.grupopie.com
Pointy-Haired Boss: I don't see anything that could stand in our way.
Dilbert: Sanity? Reality? The laws of physics?
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2006-05-16 21:41 replacing X Window System ! linux cbon
2006-05-16 21:51 ` Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-16 21:57 ` Måns Rullgård
2006-05-16 23:23 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-05-16 22:19 ` alan
2006-05-16 22:42 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-16 23:05 ` alan
2006-05-17 11:47 ` linux cbon
2006-05-17 12:18 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-17 12:39 ` linux cbon
2006-05-17 13:19 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-17 14:10 ` Panagiotis Issaris
2006-05-17 14:19 ` Ondrej Zary
2006-05-17 14:23 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-05-17 14:46 ` Bob Copeland
2006-05-17 13:24 ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-05-17 13:46 ` Bob Copeland
2006-05-17 14:01 ` Michal Piotrowski
2006-05-17 13:39 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-05-17 14:53 ` linux cbon
2006-05-17 15:09 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-17 15:14 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-17 15:30 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-05-17 16:29 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-17 15:53 ` linux cbon
2006-05-17 16:09 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-05-17 16:12 ` Stas Myasnikov
2006-05-17 15:16 ` Alan Cox
2006-05-17 15:49 ` linux cbon
2006-05-17 16:11 ` Stas Myasnikov
2006-05-17 17:52 ` Gábor Lénárt
2006-05-17 17:17 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2006-05-17 17:33 ` grundig
2006-05-18 15:42 ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-05-18 18:40 ` grundig
2006-05-18 12:00 ` Helge Hafting
2006-05-18 17:28 ` linux cbon
2006-05-18 18:42 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-18 18:52 ` Thierry Vignaud
2006-05-18 19:31 ` linux cbon
2006-05-18 19:37 ` David Lang
2006-05-18 20:12 ` Gerhard Mack
2006-05-18 22:22 ` linux cbon
2006-05-19 9:09 ` Martin Mares
2006-05-18 20:12 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-05-18 21:47 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-18 22:03 ` linux cbon
2006-05-18 22:23 ` Al Viro
2006-05-21 14:56 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2006-05-19 9:26 ` Helge Hafting
2006-05-19 11:08 ` Panagiotis Issaris
2006-05-19 13:07 ` Helge Hafting
2006-05-19 14:34 ` David Greaves
2006-05-19 14:40 ` Xavier Bestel
2006-05-19 15:13 ` linux cbon
2006-05-19 15:18 ` Xavier Bestel
2006-05-19 22:09 ` linux cbon
2006-05-19 22:51 ` Peter Gordon
2006-05-21 20:49 ` Xavier Bestel
2006-05-20 0:43 ` Jeff Carr
2006-05-19 15:01 ` Sander
2006-05-19 22:29 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-05-19 22:34 ` David Lang
2006-05-19 22:20 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-05-19 22:40 ` linux cbon
2006-05-20 1:02 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-05-20 6:31 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-05-20 8:25 ` jerome lacoste
2006-05-21 6:16 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-05-21 12:17 ` linux cbon
2006-05-21 6:38 ` Manu Abraham
2006-05-23 5:08 ` OpenGL-based framebuffer concepts Kyle Moffett
2006-05-23 0:48 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-23 17:17 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-23 22:57 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-05-23 23:38 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-23 23:24 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-24 4:21 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-24 0:42 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-24 4:57 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-24 1:04 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-24 14:30 ` Chase Venters
2006-05-24 13:32 ` Paulo Marques
2006-05-24 6:39 ` Helge Hafting
2006-05-24 13:17 ` Stefan Seyfried
2006-05-24 22:08 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-05-24 22:09 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-24 22:41 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-24 1:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-24 7:30 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-05-24 0:10 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-23 23:27 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-24 0:24 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-24 7:03 ` Helge Hafting
2006-05-24 13:55 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2006-05-24 14:49 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-24 14:56 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2006-05-24 16:15 ` Matheus Izvekov
2006-05-24 16:26 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2006-05-24 16:32 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-26 4:57 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2006-05-26 2:09 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-26 7:12 ` Helge Hafting
2006-05-24 16:42 ` Matheus Izvekov
2006-05-24 17:34 ` Xavier Bestel
2006-05-26 7:05 ` Helge Hafting
2006-05-26 7:59 ` Xavier Bestel
2006-05-26 6:58 ` Helge Hafting
2006-05-24 22:03 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-26 7:08 ` Helge Hafting
2006-05-26 8:32 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2006-05-26 10:58 ` Helge Hafting
2006-05-26 11:06 ` Xavier Bestel
2006-05-24 15:41 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-05-23 10:11 ` Alan Cox
2006-05-23 10:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-23 14:10 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-23 14:43 ` Alan Cox
2006-05-23 15:41 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-05-23 16:53 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <9b5164430605231015s40ebcd38had1c3029da8afc7@mail.gmail.com>
2006-05-23 17:21 ` Xiong Jiang
2006-05-24 12:47 ` Alan Cox
2006-05-23 23:31 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-23 15:52 ` Rene Rebe
2006-05-23 23:41 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-24 4:48 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-24 5:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-23 23:38 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-24 4:08 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-24 0:17 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-24 5:14 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-24 1:30 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-24 5:48 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-24 2:11 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-26 17:53 ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-27 18:03 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-24 15:27 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-24 23:18 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-24 23:56 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-25 0:31 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-25 0:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-25 2:37 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-25 8:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-25 14:04 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-25 15:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-25 15:37 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-25 23:04 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-25 23:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-25 23:31 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-25 23:19 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-25 23:48 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-25 15:57 ` Paulo Marques [this message]
2006-05-25 18:01 ` Alan Cox
2006-05-26 11:26 ` Olivier Galibert
2006-05-25 16:13 ` Greg KH
2006-05-26 17:39 ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-27 18:01 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-28 0:03 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-27 22:13 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-28 2:34 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-27 22:45 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-28 3:27 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-28 1:12 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-28 23:13 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-28 23:16 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-29 3:43 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-29 4:05 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-29 0:25 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-29 4:58 ` Neil Brown
2006-05-29 2:07 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-29 5:14 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-29 2:09 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-29 5:28 ` Neil Brown
2006-05-29 7:14 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-31 21:42 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-05-31 21:15 ` D. Hazelton
2006-06-01 9:43 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-06-01 11:51 ` Marko M
2006-06-01 15:54 ` D. Hazelton
2006-06-01 21:39 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-05-29 0:59 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-29 1:29 ` Daniel Stone
2006-05-29 2:28 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-30 17:40 ` David Lang
2006-05-30 21:53 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-05-30 21:55 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-05-30 22:13 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-02 8:36 ` Ondrej Zajicek
2006-06-02 8:58 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-02 18:49 ` David Lang
2006-06-02 22:01 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-02 19:57 ` David Lang
2006-06-02 23:25 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-06-03 6:32 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-03 7:05 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-06-03 16:35 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-06-03 20:55 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-06-02 12:17 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-05-30 22:35 ` Ondrej Zajicek
2006-05-30 22:55 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-31 6:48 ` Martin Mares
2006-05-31 7:13 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-31 3:25 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-31 7:19 ` Martin Mares
2006-05-31 12:09 ` Helge Hafting
2006-05-31 13:34 ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-31 13:56 ` Martin Mares
2006-05-30 23:21 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-05-31 8:26 ` Ondrej Zajicek
2006-05-31 10:25 ` Marko M
2006-05-31 11:59 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-05-31 19:24 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-05-31 19:57 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-31 20:32 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-05-31 21:23 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-01 2:21 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-05-29 10:23 ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-29 10:36 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-29 12:48 ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-29 21:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-05-29 21:45 ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-30 17:44 ` David Lang
2006-05-30 20:18 ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-29 22:10 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-29 22:58 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-29 22:57 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-29 23:23 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-29 23:48 ` Marko M
2006-05-30 1:39 ` Ian Kester-Haney
2006-05-30 2:09 ` Randy.Dunlap
[not found] ` <441e43c90605291936t19caa0eat4bd4b699e0ac9202@mail.gmail.com>
2006-05-30 2:37 ` Fwd: " Ian Kester-Haney
2006-05-30 10:49 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2006-05-30 20:24 ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-30 20:56 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-30 21:15 ` Ian Kester-Haney
2006-05-30 23:01 ` Dave Airlie
2006-05-30 23:27 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-30 23:14 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-31 4:02 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-31 0:11 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-31 4:16 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-31 0:26 ` D. Hazelton
2006-05-31 4:39 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-31 0:45 ` D. Hazelton
2006-06-01 0:50 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-06-01 1:37 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-01 1:56 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-06-01 2:19 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-31 22:36 ` D. Hazelton
2006-06-01 2:49 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-01 9:28 ` Ondrej Zajicek
2006-06-01 16:59 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-01 14:59 ` David Lang
2006-06-01 16:03 ` D. Hazelton
2006-06-01 20:35 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-01 16:47 ` D. Hazelton
2006-06-01 21:21 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-01 22:22 ` D. Hazelton
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2006-06-01 21:23 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-01 21:31 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-06-01 21:48 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-01 22:21 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-01 23:14 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-06-01 23:00 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-01 23:39 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-06-01 23:14 ` Dave Airlie
2006-06-01 23:38 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-01 23:47 ` Dave Airlie
2006-06-02 0:45 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-02 9:05 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-02 9:03 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-02 1:15 ` Dave Airlie
2006-06-02 2:18 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-01 22:34 ` D. Hazelton
2006-06-02 2:58 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-01 23:01 ` D. Hazelton
2006-06-02 3:16 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-02 0:34 ` D. Hazelton
2006-06-02 2:45 ` Dave Airlie
2006-06-02 3:27 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-02 4:28 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-02 0:35 ` D. Hazelton
2006-06-02 9:00 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-03 3:21 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-06-03 1:25 ` D. Hazelton
2006-06-03 5:55 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-03 2:09 ` D. Hazelton
2006-06-03 6:31 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-03 2:38 ` D. Hazelton
2006-06-03 4:03 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-08 7:02 ` Helge Hafting
2006-06-08 7:40 ` Daniel Hazelton
2006-06-08 8:30 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-06-09 2:44 ` Daniel Hazelton
2006-06-02 4:34 ` Ville Syrjälä
2006-06-02 0:36 ` D. Hazelton
2006-06-02 6:19 ` Dave Airlie
2006-06-02 17:31 ` Ville Syrjälä
2006-06-02 1:42 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-05-31 8:08 ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-30 23:38 ` Daniel Stone
2006-05-30 23:38 ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-30 23:55 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-30 23:38 ` Pavel Machek
2006-05-31 0:00 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-05-31 0:47 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-31 1:23 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2006-05-31 2:34 ` Jon Smirl
2006-05-18 20:27 ` replacing X Window System ! D. Hazelton
2006-05-17 13:20 ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-05-17 18:34 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-05-16 23:10 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2006-05-17 8:46 ` Ondrej Zary
2006-05-17 9:59 ` Carlos Silva
2006-05-17 13:27 ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-05-17 17:37 ` David Schwartz
2006-05-17 17:46 ` alan
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2006-05-17 17:12 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2006-05-19 10:27 ` [OT] " Jan Knutar
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