From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: brettspamacct@fastclick.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ~500 megs cached yet 2.6.5 goes into swap hell
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 09:24:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44780000.1083255853@flay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040428184008.226bd52d.akpm@osdl.org>
>> These are at the heart of the thread (or my point, at
>> least) -- BloatyApp may be Oracle with a huge cache of its own, for
>> which swapping out may be a huge mistake. Or Mozilla. After some
>> amount of disk IO on my 512MB machine, Mozilla would be swapped out...
>> when I had only been typing an email minutes before.
>
> OK, so it takes four seconds to swap mozilla back in, and you noticed it.
>
> Did you notice that those three kernel builds you just did ran in twenty
> seconds less time because they had more cache available? Nope.
The latency for interactive stuff is definitely more noticeable though, and
thus arguably more important. Perhaps we should be tying the scheduler in
more tightly with the VM - we've already decided there which apps are
"interactive" and thus need low latency ... shouldn't we be giving a boost
to their RAM pages as well, and favour keeping those paged in over other
pages (whether other apps, or cache) logically? It's all latency still ...
M.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-04-29 16:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-04-28 21:27 ~500 megs cached yet 2.6.5 goes into swap hell Brett E.
2004-04-29 0:01 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 0:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-04-29 0:21 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-29 0:50 ` Wakko Warner
2004-04-29 0:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-04-29 0:54 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-29 1:51 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-29 21:45 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-04-29 0:58 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-29 3:48 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-29 4:20 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-29 4:26 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-29 14:49 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-30 4:08 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-30 22:31 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-29 6:38 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-04-29 7:36 ` Russell King
2004-04-29 10:44 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-29 11:04 ` Russell King
2004-04-29 14:52 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-29 20:01 ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-29 20:18 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-29 20:33 ` David B. Stevens
2004-04-29 22:42 ` Steve Youngs
2004-04-29 20:36 ` Paul Jackson
2004-04-29 21:19 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 21:34 ` Paul Jackson
2004-04-29 21:57 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 22:18 ` Paul Jackson
2004-04-30 0:04 ` Andy Isaacson
2004-04-30 0:32 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-30 0:54 ` Paul Jackson
2004-04-30 5:38 ` Andy Isaacson
2004-04-30 6:00 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-30 7:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-04-30 8:02 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-30 8:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-06 13:08 ` Pavel Machek
2004-05-07 15:53 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-05-07 16:57 ` Pavel Machek
2004-05-07 17:30 ` Timothy Miller
2004-05-07 17:43 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-05-07 17:48 ` Mark Frazer
2004-05-12 17:52 ` Rob Landley
2004-05-17 20:16 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-04-29 21:38 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-29 21:47 ` Paul Jackson
2004-04-29 22:18 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-29 22:46 ` Paul Jackson
2004-04-29 23:08 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 12:31 ` Bart Samwel
2004-04-30 15:35 ` Clay Haapala
2004-04-30 15:44 ` Bart Samwel
2004-04-30 22:11 ` Paul Jackson
2004-04-30 3:37 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-30 5:15 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-30 6:20 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-30 6:34 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-30 7:05 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-30 7:15 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-30 9:18 ` Re[2]: " vda
2004-04-30 9:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-04-30 11:33 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-04-30 16:19 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-29 0:49 ` Brett E.
2004-04-29 1:00 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 1:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-04-29 1:40 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 1:47 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-29 18:14 ` Adam Kropelin
2004-04-30 3:17 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-29 2:19 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-29 16:24 ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2004-04-29 16:36 ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-29 16:56 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-29 1:30 ` Paul Mackerras
2004-04-29 1:31 ` Paul Mackerras
2004-04-29 1:53 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 2:40 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 2:58 ` Paul Mackerras
2004-04-29 3:09 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 3:14 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-04-29 6:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-29 6:22 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 6:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-29 6:31 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-04-29 16:50 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-29 3:57 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-29 14:29 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-30 3:00 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-30 12:50 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-30 13:07 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-30 13:18 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-04-30 13:39 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-29 1:46 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-29 1:57 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 2:29 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-29 2:35 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 3:10 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-29 3:19 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 4:13 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-29 4:33 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 14:45 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-29 16:51 ` Andy Isaacson
2004-04-29 20:42 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 22:27 ` Andy Isaacson
2004-04-29 23:19 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-30 0:14 ` Lincoln Dale
2004-04-29 8:02 ` Wichert Akkerman
2004-04-29 14:25 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-04-29 14:27 ` Wichert Akkerman
2004-04-29 2:41 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-29 2:43 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 1:41 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-29 9:43 ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-29 14:48 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-29 0:44 ` Brett E.
2004-04-29 1:13 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 1:29 ` Brett E.
2004-04-29 18:05 ` Brett E.
2004-04-29 18:32 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-04-29 20:47 ` Brett E.
2004-04-29 0:04 ` Brett E.
2004-04-29 0:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-04-29 0:43 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-29 13:51 ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-29 18:32 ` Brett E.
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