From: "Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@novell.com>
To: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: <jeff@garzik.org>, <htejun@gmail.com>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@osdl.org>, <reuben-lkml@reub.net>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.17-rc5-mm2
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 09:37:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <448006F6.76E4.0078.0@novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <447FFCAC.76E4.0078.
>firstly, i'd suggest to use another magic value for 'bottom of call
>stacks' - it is way too common to jump or call a NULL pointer. Something
>like 0xfedcba9876543210 would be better.
That's contrary to common use (outside of the kernel). I'm opposed to this. Detecting an initial bad EIP isn't a
problem, and the old code can be used easily in that case.
>for the RIP/EIP to get corrupted is a common occurance. So is stack
>corruption. So the fallback mechanism shouldnt be a 'short while'
>side-thought, it must be part of the design.
RIP/EIP corruption, as said above, can be easily handled. RSP/ESP corruption, as I understand it, isn't being handled
in the old code, and so I can't see what improvements the new code could do here (given that instruction and stack
pointers serve as the anchors for kicking off an unwind).
>In all other cases (if we go outside of the stack page(s)) we _must_
>fall back to the dump 'scan the stack pages for interesting entries'
>method, to get the information out! "Uh oh the unwind info somehow got
>corrupted, sorry" is not enough to debug a kernel bug.
Again, you miss the point that the very last unwind operation must always be expected to move the stack pointer outside
the stack boundaries, which would mean triggering the fallback path in all cases. With this, we could as well leave out
the entire unwind code and keep everyone of us manually do the separation of good and bad entries in the trace shown.
Jan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-02 7:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-01 8:48 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-01 9:30 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Mike Galbraith
2006-06-01 9:45 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Jens Axboe
2006-06-01 9:48 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-01 9:34 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Reuben Farrelly
2006-06-01 9:56 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-01 10:11 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Reuben Farrelly
2006-06-01 10:33 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-01 10:53 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-01 11:25 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-01 11:59 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Reuben Farrelly
2006-06-01 16:22 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-01 22:15 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Reuben Farrelly
2006-06-01 12:20 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Jan Beulich
2006-06-01 16:19 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-01 18:34 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-02 6:54 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Jan Beulich
2006-06-02 7:09 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-02 7:22 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-02 7:21 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-02 7:13 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-02 7:37 ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2006-06-02 7:51 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-02 20:53 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Daniel Jacobowitz
2006-06-01 10:23 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Jeff Garzik
2006-06-01 11:42 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 another compile error Helge Hafting
2006-06-01 16:29 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-21 12:07 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-06-01 11:54 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 stack unwind compile failure Helge Hafting
2006-06-01 16:30 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-01 12:35 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 md cause BUGs, and readahead speedup Helge Hafting
2006-06-01 12:54 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-01 13:03 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 link issues on s390 Cedric Le Goater
2006-06-01 13:28 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-06-01 13:53 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-06-08 7:28 ` Heiko Carstens
2006-06-08 9:13 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-06-08 11:02 ` Heiko Carstens
2006-06-08 12:45 ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-06-09 7:58 ` Heiko Carstens
2006-06-01 15:35 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Jiri Slaby
2006-06-01 15:49 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-01 16:35 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ben Collins
2006-06-05 11:28 ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc5-mm3] ieee1394: hl_irqs_lock is taken in hardware interrupt context Stefan Richter
2006-06-05 11:31 ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc5-mm3] ieee1394: adjust code formatting in highlevel.c Stefan Richter
2006-06-05 12:07 ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc5-mm3] ieee1394: hl_irqs_lock is taken in hardware interrupt context Stefan Richter
2006-06-01 15:51 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Michal Piotrowski
2006-06-01 17:20 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-01 17:35 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-01 17:36 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-01 19:04 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Michal Piotrowski
2006-06-01 22:30 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Michal Piotrowski
2006-06-01 17:22 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-01 17:27 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-01 17:40 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-01 19:31 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-01 21:51 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Jesper Juhl
2006-06-01 21:52 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Jesper Juhl
2006-06-01 22:25 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Barry K. Nathan
2006-06-01 22:40 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-01 22:32 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Barry K. Nathan
2006-06-01 22:52 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-02 0:07 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Barry K. Nathan
2006-06-02 0:28 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-02 0:43 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Barry K. Nathan
2006-06-02 0:58 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Barry K. Nathan
2006-06-02 1:38 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-02 6:02 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-02 13:14 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Barry K. Nathan
2006-06-02 14:20 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-02 18:01 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Barry K. Nathan
2006-06-02 18:06 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Barry K. Nathan
2006-06-02 20:53 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-02 22:33 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Barry K. Nathan
2006-06-03 7:13 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-03 14:41 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-03 21:10 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Barry K. Nathan
2006-06-04 2:29 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Barry K. Nathan
2006-06-04 8:33 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-04 7:57 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-02 15:51 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Alan Cox
2006-06-02 18:21 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Barry K. Nathan
2006-06-02 18:25 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-02 3:23 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-06-02 5:06 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-02 10:09 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Paolo Ornati
2006-06-02 11:10 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-02 11:17 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-02 11:34 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Paolo Ornati
2006-06-02 14:13 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-02 14:46 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Paolo Ornati
2006-06-02 15:10 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-02 19:49 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Ingo Molnar
2006-06-02 20:09 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Paolo Ornati
2006-06-02 18:38 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Mel Gorman
2006-06-02 18:59 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Andrew Morton
2006-06-03 15:29 ` 2.6.17-rc5-mm2 Mel Gorman
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