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From: Anssi Hannula <anssi.hannula@gmail.com>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor_core@ameritech.net>
Cc: linux-joystick@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 03/12] input: new force feedback interface
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 14:23:38 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <448565BA.2070805@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200606052202.26019.dtor_core@ameritech.net>

Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Monday 05 June 2006 17:11, Anssi Hannula wrote:
> 
>>Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
>>
>>>On 5/30/06, Anssi Hannula <anssi.hannula@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Implement a new force feedback interface, in which all
>>>>non-driver-specific
>>>>operations are separated to a common module. This includes handling
>>>>effect
>>>>type validations, effect timers, locking, etc.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Still looking at it, couple of random points for now...
>>>
>>>
>>>>The code should be built as part of the input module, but
>>>>unfortunately that
>>>>would require renaming input.c, which we don't want to do. So instead
>>>>we make
>>>>INPUT_FF_EFFECTS a bool so that it cannot be built as a module.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I am not opposed to rename input.c, I wonder what pending changes
>>>besides David's header cleanup Andrew had in mind.
>>>
>>>
>>>>@@ -865,6 +865,9 @@ struct input_dev {
>>>>       unsigned long sndbit[NBITS(SND_MAX)];
>>>>       unsigned long ffbit[NBITS(FF_MAX)];
>>>>       unsigned long swbit[NBITS(SW_MAX)];
>>>>+
>>>>+       struct ff_device *ff;
>>>>+       struct mutex ff_lock;
>>>
>>>
>>>I believe that ff_lock should be part of ff_device and be only used to
>>>controll access when uploading/erasing effects. The teardown process
>>>should make sure that device inactive anyway only then remove
>>>ff_device from input_dev; by that time noone should be able to
>>>upload/erase effects. Therefore ff_lock is not needed to protect
>>>dev->ff.
>>>
>>
>>Hmm, I remember testing this by putting a 10 second sleep into the end
>>of input_ff_effect_upload() and dropping the ff_locking when
>>unregistering device. Then while in that sleep I unplugged the device.
>>The dev->ff was indeed removed while the input_ff_effect_upload() was
>>still running.
>>
>>Maybe there was/is some bug in the input device unregistering process
>>that doesn't account for ioctls.
>>
>>Anyway, I'll retest this issue soon.
>>
> 
> 
> And it will fail, locking is missing many parts of input core. Notice I
> said _should_, not will ;) I was trying to paint how it should work when
> we have proper locking and I don't want to use ff_lock to paper over
> some bugs in the core.
>  

Ah, ok.

>>>>===================================================================
>>>>--- linux-2.6.17-rc4-git12.orig/drivers/input/input.c   2006-05-27
>>>>02:28:57.000000000 +0300
>>>>+++ linux-2.6.17-rc4-git12/drivers/input/input.c        2006-05-27
>>>>02:38:35.000000000 +0300
>>>>@@ -733,6 +733,17 @@ static void input_dev_release(struct cla
>>>> {
>>>>       struct input_dev *dev = to_input_dev(class_dev);
>>>>
>>>>+       if (dev->ff) {
>>>>+               struct ff_device *ff = dev->ff;
>>>>+               clear_bit(EV_FF, dev->evbit);
>>>>+               mutex_lock(&dev->ff_lock);
>>>>+               del_timer_sync(&ff->timer);
>>>
>>>
>>>This is too late. We need to stop timer when device gets unregistered.
>>
>>And what if driver has called input_allocate_device(),
>>input_ff_allocate(), input_ff_register(), but then decides to abort and
>>calls input_dev_release()?   input_unregister_device() would not get
>>called at all.
>>
> 
> 
> Right, but if device was never registered there is no device node so noone
> could start the timer and deleting it is a noop. Hmm, I think even better
> place would be to stop ff timer when device is closed (i.e. when last user
> closes file handle).
> 

Hmm... actually, they are stopped in flush(), and IIRC that is always
called before deleting input_dev.

> 
>>>Clearing FF bits is pointless here as device is about to disappear;
>>>locking is also not needed because we are guaranteed to be the last
>>>user of the device structure.
>>
>>True, if that guarantee really exists.
>>
> Yes, this is guaranteed.
> 

So, now you guarantee it, but it isn't really so? ;)

When we remove locking, timer_del, clear_bit, all that is left is
kfree() and I guess that has to still be run in the input_dev_release().

-- 
Anssi Hannula


  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-06 11:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-30 10:57 [patch 00/12] input: force feedback updates, third time Anssi Hannula
2006-05-30 10:57 ` [patch 01/12] input: move fixp-arith.h to drivers/input Anssi Hannula
2006-05-30 10:57 ` [patch 02/12] input: fix accuracy of fixp-arith.h Anssi Hannula
2006-05-30 10:57 ` [patch 03/12] input: new force feedback interface Anssi Hannula
2006-05-31  5:21   ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-05-31 10:13     ` Anssi Hannula
2006-06-01 19:02     ` input: return -ENOSYS for registering functions when ff is disabled Anssi Hannula
2006-06-01 19:07     ` input: fix comments and blank lines in new ff code Anssi Hannula
2006-06-01 19:52       ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-06-01 20:03         ` Anssi Hannula
2006-06-01 20:09           ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-06-01 20:47             ` Anssi Hannula
2006-06-01 21:33               ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-06-01 22:16                 ` Anssi Hannula
2006-06-01 22:31                   ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-06-02 17:44                 ` [patch] input: fix function name in a comment Anssi Hannula
2006-06-05 18:52   ` [patch 03/12] input: new force feedback interface Dmitry Torokhov
2006-06-05 21:11     ` Anssi Hannula
2006-06-06  2:02       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-06-06 11:23         ` Anssi Hannula [this message]
2006-06-06 12:45           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-06-06 13:11             ` Anssi Hannula
2006-06-19 20:09               ` Anssi Hannula
2006-05-30 10:57 ` [patch 04/12] input: adapt hid force feedback drivers for the new interface Anssi Hannula
2006-05-30 10:57 ` [patch 05/12] input: adapt uinput for the new force feedback interface Anssi Hannula
2006-05-30 10:57 ` [patch 06/12] input: adapt iforce driver " Anssi Hannula
2006-05-30 10:57 ` [patch 07/12] input: force feedback driver for PID devices Anssi Hannula
2006-05-30 10:57 ` [patch 08/12] input: force feedback driver for Zeroplus devices Anssi Hannula
2006-05-30 10:57 ` [patch 09/12] input: update documentation of force feedback Anssi Hannula
2006-05-30 10:57 ` [patch 10/12] input: drop the remains of the old ff interface Anssi Hannula
2006-05-30 10:57 ` [patch 11/12] input: drop the old PID driver Anssi Hannula
2006-05-30 10:57 ` [patch 12/12] input: use -ENOSPC instead of -ENOMEM in iforce when device full Anssi Hannula
2006-05-31  5:02   ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-05-31 10:04     ` Anssi Hannula
2006-05-31 15:15       ` Randy.Dunlap

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