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From: Shailabh Nagar <nagar@watson.ibm.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: balbir@in.ibm.com, jlan@sgi.com, csturtiv@sgi.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Patch][RFC]  Disabling per-tgid stats on task exit in taskstats
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 17:56:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4489EE7C.3080007@watson.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060609042129.ae97018c.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> You see the problem - if one userspace package wants the tgid-stats and
> another concurrently-running one does now, what do we do?  Just leave it
> enabled and run a bit slower?
> 
> If so, how much slower?  Your changelog says some potential users don't
> need the tgid-stats, but so what?  I assume this patch is a performance
> thing?  If so, has it been quantified?


Here are some results from running a simple program (source below) that does
10 iterations of creating and then destroying 1000 threads. On the side, another utility
kept reading the pid (+tgid if present) stats from exiting tasks.


	Yes	No	Ovhd
user	0.14	0.15	-6%
system	1.61	1.54	+5%
elapsed	2.01	1.94	+3%

Yes = tgid stats printed on exit
No = not printed
Ovhd = (Yes-No)/No * 100

So even in this extreme case where the per-tgid stats are indeed
half of the total data, the overhead is not very significant.

As pointed out earlier, more representative cases are
- single threaded apps (e.g. make -jX) where the current
taskstats interface already optimizes by not sending redundant per-tgid stats, or
- server-type multithreaded apps where the exits are going to be relatively infrequent (due to
reuse of thread pools) so the extra per-tgid output is not going to have much impact.

I'd suggest we drop the idea of including this patch until we have data showing that
the overhead is an issue.

--Shailabh



#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <unistd.h>
#include <pthread.h>

int n;

void *slow_exit(void *arg)
{
	int i = (int) arg;
	usleep((n-i)*2);
}

int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
	int i,rc, rep;
	pthread_t *ppthread;
	
	n = 5 ;
	if (argc > 1)
		n = atoi(argv[1]);

	rep = 10;
	if (argc > 2)
		rep = atoi(argv[2]);

	ppthread = malloc(n * sizeof(pthread_t));
	if (ppthread == NULL) {
		printf("Memory allocation failure\n");
		exit(-1);
	}

	while (rep) {
		for (i=0; i<n; i++) {
			rc = pthread_create(&ppthread[i], NULL,
					    slow_exit, (void *)i);
			if (rc) {
				printf("Error creating thread %d\n", i);
				exit(-1);
			}
		}
		for (i=0; i<n; i++) {
			rc = pthread_join(ppthread[i], NULL);
			if (rc) {
				printf("Error joining thread %d\n", i);
				exit(-1);
			}
		}
		rep--;
	}
}




  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-06-09 21:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-09  7:41 [Patch][RFC] Disabling per-tgid stats on task exit in taskstats Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-09  8:00 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-09 10:51   ` Balbir Singh
2006-06-09 11:21     ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-09 13:20       ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-09 18:25         ` Jay Lan
2006-06-09 19:12           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-09 15:36       ` Balbir Singh
2006-06-09 18:35         ` Jay Lan
2006-06-09 19:31           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-09 21:56       ` Shailabh Nagar [this message]
2006-06-09 22:42         ` Jay Lan
2006-06-09 23:22           ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-09 23:47             ` Jay Lan
2006-06-09 23:56               ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-10 12:21               ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-12 18:31                 ` Jay Lan
2006-06-12 21:57                   ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-10 13:05               ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-12 18:54                 ` Jay Lan
2006-06-21 19:11         ` Jay Lan
2006-06-21 19:14           ` Jay Lan
2006-06-21 19:34             ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-21 23:35               ` Jay Lan
2006-06-21 23:45                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-23 17:14                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-23 18:19                   ` Jay Lan
2006-06-23 18:53                     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-23 20:00                       ` Jay Lan
2006-06-23 20:16                         ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-23 20:36                           ` Jay Lan
2006-06-23 21:19                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23 22:07                     ` Jay Lan
2006-06-23 23:47                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-24  2:59                         ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-24  4:39                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-24  5:59                             ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-26 17:33                               ` Jay Lan
2006-06-26 17:52                                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-26 17:55                                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-26 18:00                                   ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-26 18:12                                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-26 18:26                                       ` Jay Lan
2006-06-26 18:39                                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-26 18:49                                           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-26 19:00                                           ` Jay Lan
2006-06-28 21:30                                           ` Jay Lan
2006-06-28 21:53                                             ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-28 22:02                                               ` Jay Lan
2006-06-29  8:40                                                 ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 12:30                                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-06-29 16:44                                                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 18:01                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-29 18:07                                                         ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 18:26                                                         ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 19:15                                                           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 19:41                                                             ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 21:42                                                               ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 21:54                                                                 ` Jay Lan
2006-06-29 22:09                                                                   ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 22:23                                                                 ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-30  0:15                                                                   ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30  0:40                                                                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-30  1:00                                                                       ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30  1:05                                                                         ` Paul Jackson
     [not found]                                                                   ` <44A46C6C.1090405@watson.ibm.com>
2006-06-30  0:38                                                                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-30  2:21                                                                       ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-30  2:46                                                                         ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30  2:54                                                                           ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-30  3:02                                                                           ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 19:22                                                           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 19:10                                                         ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 19:23                                                           ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 19:33                                                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-29 19:43                                                             ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 20:00                                                               ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-29 22:13                                                                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 23:00                                                                   ` jamal
2006-06-29 20:01                                                             ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-29 21:22                                                               ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 22:54                                                               ` jamal
2006-06-30  0:38                                                                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30  1:05                                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-30  1:11                                                                     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30  1:30                                                                       ` jamal
2006-06-30  3:01                                                                         ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 12:45                                                                           ` jamal
2006-06-30  2:25                                                                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-30  2:35                                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-30  2:43                                                                         ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-29 19:33                                                         ` Jay Lan
2006-06-30 18:53                                                         ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 19:10                                                           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 19:19                                                             ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 20:19                                                             ` jamal
2006-06-30 22:50                                                             ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-01  2:20                                                               ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-01  2:43                                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-01  3:37                                                                   ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-01  3:51                                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-03 21:11                                                                       ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-03 21:41                                                                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-04  0:13                                                                           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-04  0:38                                                                             ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-04 20:19                                                                           ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-04 20:22                                                                             ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-04  0:54                                                                         ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-04  1:01                                                                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-04 13:05                                                                             ` jamal
2006-07-04 15:18                                                                               ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-04 16:37                                                                                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-04 19:24                                                                                   ` jamal
2006-07-05 14:09                                                                                     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-05 20:25                                                                                       ` Chris Sturtivant
2006-07-05 20:32                                                                                         ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-03  4:53                                                                     ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-03 15:02                                                                       ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-03 15:55                                                                         ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-03 16:31                                                                         ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-04  0:09                                                                           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-07-04 19:59                                                                             ` Paul Jackson
2006-07-05 17:20                                                                         ` Jay Lan
2006-07-05 18:18                                                                           ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-30 22:56                                                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-29 18:05                                                       ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-29 12:42                                                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-24  3:08                     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-21 20:38           ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-21 21:31             ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-21 21:45               ` Jay Lan
2006-06-21 21:54                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-21 22:19                   ` Jay Lan
2006-06-21 21:59                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-06-09 15:55 ` Chris Sturtivant

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