Re: VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter)

[Simon Oosthoek <simon.oosthoek@ti-wmc.nl>]

Hi Matti

(please don't consider this a personal attack, just the idea is wrong to me)

Matti Aarnio wrote:
> 
> For a very long time (like 20 years or so) I used to think like that.
> 
> Doing email services in big ISP environments for about 10 years did
> cure me of that thinking.  Ordinary Janes and Joes (and grannies
> and granpas) must not be allowed to send email in similar ways that
> we used to do in happy 1980es when the internet was engineer playground.

This is so against the spirit and meaning of the Internet, you're not 
talking about the network we call Internet. You're talking about two 
tiered internet, which is bad too.

> The Internet needs to be segregated into two kinds of users - those that
> must not be allowed to do much of anything ( = common man to whom the
> internet equals anyway to IE web-browser ) and to first-class citizens
> with their own email servers...
> 

Why don't you go fork the Internet then? Go see if that will work?

This whole discussion is kind of ridiculous for an open source project 
like the linux kernel. If you're so keen on fixing e-mail, you should 
work closely with the IETF working groups to create a new standard that 
works.

Finally, if you consider doing this, why not consider closing the 
mailinglist to a subscription only list, that will work so much better 
than this "free lunch" (to quote someone else)

Cheers

Simon