From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932340AbWFNEyW (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:54:22 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932405AbWFNEyW (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:54:22 -0400 Received: from h-66-166-126-70.lsanca54.covad.net ([66.166.126.70]:57731 "EHLO myri.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932340AbWFNEyV (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:54:21 -0400 Message-ID: <448F967A.8070801@ens-lyon.org> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:54:18 -0400 From: Brice Goglin User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chase Venters CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH 1/2] in-kernel sockets API References: <1150156562.19929.32.camel@w-sridhar2.beaverton.ibm.com> <20060613140716.6af45bec@localhost.localdomain> <20060613052215.B27858@openss7.org> <448F2A49.5020809@google.com> <20060613154031.A6276@openss7.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Chase Venters wrote: > At least some of us feel like stable module APIs should be explicitly > discouraged, because we don't want to offer comfort for code that > refuses to live in the tree (since getting said code into the tree is > often a goal). > > I'm curious now too - can you name some non-GPL non-proprietary > modules we should be concerned about? I'd think most of the possible > examples (not sure what they are) would be better off dual-licensed > (one license being GPL) and in-kernel. What about GPL modules that don't want to get merged ? I don't know any such module that could use this API. But at least there are some webcam drivers that don't seem to want to be merged (I don't know why). I agree with making life hard for proprietary modules. I agree that maintaining a stable API is hard. But I don't see the actual point of discouraging modules to stay out of tree. Brice