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From: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
To: Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	devel@openvz.org, xemul@openvz.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	herbert@13thfloor.at, saw@sw.ru, serue@us.ibm.com,
	sfrench@us.ibm.com, sam@vilain.net, haveblue@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] IPC namespace - utils
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:14:49 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <448FEFA9.2040705@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <448F2B78.5090405@fr.ibm.com>

>>Agreed.  Hmm.  I bet I didn't see this one earlier because it is specific
>>to the unshare case.  In this case I guess we should either deny the unshare
>>or simply undo all of the semaphores.  Because we will never be able to
>>talk to them again.
> 
> So aren't we reaching the unshare() limits ? Shouldn't we be using the
> exec() principle for the sysvipc namespace ? clear it all and start from
> scratch.
there will be more such issues with more complex namespaces. That's why 
I proposed to use containers.
Any way, right now, I don't think this should be urgently fixed as there 
are many other ways to crash the node when you are a root.
The rule is simple - the process changing the namespace should be 
simple, w/o IPCs. For more complex namespaces (e.g. resource management 
namespaces) a fork() can be required after unshare().

>>Thinking about this some more we need to unsharing the semaphore undo semantics
>>when we create a new instances of the sysvipc namespace.  Which means that
>>until that piece is implemented we can't unshare the sysvipc namespace.
> 
> 
> no big issue I think. exit_sem() does it already. it would end up coding
> the yet unsupported unshare_semundo().
do we need really it?
my point is that while with IPCs it maybe quite easy since semundo code 
already exists it can be still very hard for other namespaces which do 
not track its objects associated with the task.

BTW, do we have the same problem with shm? What will happen if the task 
having shm segment will change it's IPC namespace? Besides the possible 
crash/stability bugs there can be more interesting effects, for example:
"user will be able to do operations on existing objects with new 
namespace limitations?"...

Thanks,
Kirill

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-14 11:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-09 14:55 [PATCH] IPC namespace Kirill Korotaev
2006-06-09 15:01 ` [PATCH 1/6] IPC namespace core Kirill Korotaev
2006-06-09 15:20   ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-06-09 15:26   ` James Morris
2006-06-09 18:38   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-10  0:44   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-10  3:22   ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-09 15:05 ` [PATCH 2/6] IPC namespace - utils Kirill Korotaev
2006-06-12 17:08   ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-06-12 18:01     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-12 21:05       ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-06-12 21:49         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-13 21:17           ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-06-14 11:14             ` Kirill Korotaev [this message]
2006-06-09 15:07 ` [PATCH 3/6] IPC namespace - msg Kirill Korotaev
2006-06-09 15:08 ` [PATCH 4/6] IPC namespace - sem Kirill Korotaev
2006-06-09 15:09 ` [PATCH 5/6] IPC namespace - shm Kirill Korotaev
2006-06-09 15:11 ` [PATCH 6/6] IPC namespace - sysctls Kirill Korotaev
2006-06-12 17:19 ` [PATCH] IPC namespace Dave Hansen
2006-06-13  2:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-13 16:41   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-06-13 17:01     ` Eric W. Biederman

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